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Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:03 pm
by ---
stip wrote:
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stip wrote:in the end I tend to not go in for fuzzy meandering guitars, and i don't really like his voice. So Neil Young is going to be a tough sell for me. Enough people whose tastes I respect swear by this guy, so I'm sure there is something here, but it's not reaching me
yeah but the majority of his 70s work isn't (aren't?) fuzzbombs. sure, a lot of it takes its time getting to where it goes, but the instrumentation is crisp and bright and clean
oh sure, but that's where the voice is a dealbreaker to me. The instrumentation really puts him front and center, and I just don't like listening to him sing. I think on songs that have a bit more urgency I might get past it, but on languid atmospheric pieces it's going to work to the detriment of the song. I bet I'd like covers of more than a few of these.
yeah, the voice isn't something you'll likely ever be able to get over. i really dig it.

it's interesting that you dig stipe but don't respond to neil.

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:04 pm
by stip
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
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stip wrote:in the end I tend to not go in for fuzzy meandering guitars, and i don't really like his voice. So Neil Young is going to be a tough sell for me. Enough people whose tastes I respect swear by this guy, so I'm sure there is something here, but it's not reaching me
yeah but the majority of his 70s work isn't (aren't?) fuzzbombs. sure, a lot of it takes its time getting to where it goes, but the instrumentation is crisp and bright and clean
oh sure, but that's where the voice is a dealbreaker to me. The instrumentation really puts him front and center, and I just don't like listening to him sing. I think on songs that have a bit more urgency I might get past it, but on languid atmospheric pieces it's going to work to the detriment of the song. I bet I'd like covers of more than a few of these.

how about this?

that was pretty good.

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:04 pm
by stip
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stip wrote:
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stip wrote:in the end I tend to not go in for fuzzy meandering guitars, and i don't really like his voice. So Neil Young is going to be a tough sell for me. Enough people whose tastes I respect swear by this guy, so I'm sure there is something here, but it's not reaching me
yeah but the majority of his 70s work isn't (aren't?) fuzzbombs. sure, a lot of it takes its time getting to where it goes, but the instrumentation is crisp and bright and clean
oh sure, but that's where the voice is a dealbreaker to me. The instrumentation really puts him front and center, and I just don't like listening to him sing. I think on songs that have a bit more urgency I might get past it, but on languid atmospheric pieces it's going to work to the detriment of the song. I bet I'd like covers of more than a few of these.
yeah, the voice isn't something you'll likely ever be able to get over. i really dig it.

it's interesting that you dig stipe but don't respond to neil.
do you think they sound similar?

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:05 pm
by Strat
stip wrote:
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
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stip wrote:in the end I tend to not go in for fuzzy meandering guitars, and i don't really like his voice. So Neil Young is going to be a tough sell for me. Enough people whose tastes I respect swear by this guy, so I'm sure there is something here, but it's not reaching me
yeah but the majority of his 70s work isn't (aren't?) fuzzbombs. sure, a lot of it takes its time getting to where it goes, but the instrumentation is crisp and bright and clean
oh sure, but that's where the voice is a dealbreaker to me. The instrumentation really puts him front and center, and I just don't like listening to him sing. I think on songs that have a bit more urgency I might get past it, but on languid atmospheric pieces it's going to work to the detriment of the song. I bet I'd like covers of more than a few of these.

how about this?

that was pretty good.
bup bup! The doors have opened, come play....

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:05 pm
by ---
cutuphalfdead wrote:
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
--- wrote:this thread is my RM watering hole
Pfft, it's no Mynabirds thread.
i like that this thread is a tw*tter-free zone
You're a better person than someone who harbors a blanket opposition to Twitter.
i'm really not
I'm sure you did what you thought was best.
i'd categorize it as more of a "blanket indifference" than a "blanket opposition"
If you were truly indifferent then this thread being a twitter free zone wouldn't mean a thing.
that's why i used the qualifier "more." i'm very, very weakly anti-twitter, but it's a position much closer to indifference than anything that would inspire stronger feelings or opinions.

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:05 pm
by stip
doug rr wrote:
that was pretty good, too

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:07 pm
by stip
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
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stip wrote:in the end I tend to not go in for fuzzy meandering guitars, and i don't really like his voice. So Neil Young is going to be a tough sell for me. Enough people whose tastes I respect swear by this guy, so I'm sure there is something here, but it's not reaching me
yeah but the majority of his 70s work isn't (aren't?) fuzzbombs. sure, a lot of it takes its time getting to where it goes, but the instrumentation is crisp and bright and clean
oh sure, but that's where the voice is a dealbreaker to me. The instrumentation really puts him front and center, and I just don't like listening to him sing. I think on songs that have a bit more urgency I might get past it, but on languid atmospheric pieces it's going to work to the detriment of the song. I bet I'd like covers of more than a few of these.

how about this?

that was pretty good.
bup bup! The doors have opened, come play....
that was pretty good. If someone had that on I'd listen, but I didn't hear it and think 'man, I need to find out more' like I did when I listened to the first song on that mynabirds album

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:09 pm
by ---
stip wrote:
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stip wrote:
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stip wrote:in the end I tend to not go in for fuzzy meandering guitars, and i don't really like his voice. So Neil Young is going to be a tough sell for me. Enough people whose tastes I respect swear by this guy, so I'm sure there is something here, but it's not reaching me
yeah but the majority of his 70s work isn't (aren't?) fuzzbombs. sure, a lot of it takes its time getting to where it goes, but the instrumentation is crisp and bright and clean
oh sure, but that's where the voice is a dealbreaker to me. The instrumentation really puts him front and center, and I just don't like listening to him sing. I think on songs that have a bit more urgency I might get past it, but on languid atmospheric pieces it's going to work to the detriment of the song. I bet I'd like covers of more than a few of these.
yeah, the voice isn't something you'll likely ever be able to get over. i really dig it.

it's interesting that you dig stipe but don't respond to neil.
do you think they sound similar?
i would say they're similarly distinctive, and both are pretty polarizing. i happen to like both, but my feeling is that those who dislike either/both REM and neil young classify as their main objection vocal stylings.

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:10 pm
by Norah
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stip wrote:
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stip wrote:
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stip wrote:in the end I tend to not go in for fuzzy meandering guitars, and i don't really like his voice. So Neil Young is going to be a tough sell for me. Enough people whose tastes I respect swear by this guy, so I'm sure there is something here, but it's not reaching me
yeah but the majority of his 70s work isn't (aren't?) fuzzbombs. sure, a lot of it takes its time getting to where it goes, but the instrumentation is crisp and bright and clean
oh sure, but that's where the voice is a dealbreaker to me. The instrumentation really puts him front and center, and I just don't like listening to him sing. I think on songs that have a bit more urgency I might get past it, but on languid atmospheric pieces it's going to work to the detriment of the song. I bet I'd like covers of more than a few of these.
yeah, the voice isn't something you'll likely ever be able to get over. i really dig it.

it's interesting that you dig stipe but don't respond to neil.
do you think they sound similar?
i would say they're similarly distinctive, and both are pretty polarizing. i happen to like both, but my feeling is that those who dislike either/both REM and neil young classify as their main objection vocal stylings.
N*gga loves Tom Waits too.

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:11 pm
by doug rr

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:12 pm
by stip
I think Stipe is a bit deeper (I'm talking about the voice), more mysterious and, when he wants to, he can do that really beautiful soaring thing he does. I can see the similarities now that you mention the two of them together, even though they never really struck me before

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:12 pm
by ---
cutuphalfdead wrote:
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stip wrote:
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stip wrote:
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stip wrote:in the end I tend to not go in for fuzzy meandering guitars, and i don't really like his voice. So Neil Young is going to be a tough sell for me. Enough people whose tastes I respect swear by this guy, so I'm sure there is something here, but it's not reaching me
yeah but the majority of his 70s work isn't (aren't?) fuzzbombs. sure, a lot of it takes its time getting to where it goes, but the instrumentation is crisp and bright and clean
oh sure, but that's where the voice is a dealbreaker to me. The instrumentation really puts him front and center, and I just don't like listening to him sing. I think on songs that have a bit more urgency I might get past it, but on languid atmospheric pieces it's going to work to the detriment of the song. I bet I'd like covers of more than a few of these.
yeah, the voice isn't something you'll likely ever be able to get over. i really dig it.

it's interesting that you dig stipe but don't respond to neil.
do you think they sound similar?
i would say they're similarly distinctive, and both are pretty polarizing. i happen to like both, but my feeling is that those who dislike either/both REM and neil young classify as their main objection vocal stylings.
N*gga loves Tom Waits too.
--- trufact: i've never intentionally listened to anything by tom waits

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:12 pm
by ---
doug rr wrote:
where's given2trade?

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:12 pm
by stip
doug rr wrote:
since this is a public space I'll only listen to this if you have a neil young hannukah song to go with it

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:12 pm
by Norah
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
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stip wrote:
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stip wrote:
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stip wrote:in the end I tend to not go in for fuzzy meandering guitars, and i don't really like his voice. So Neil Young is going to be a tough sell for me. Enough people whose tastes I respect swear by this guy, so I'm sure there is something here, but it's not reaching me
yeah but the majority of his 70s work isn't (aren't?) fuzzbombs. sure, a lot of it takes its time getting to where it goes, but the instrumentation is crisp and bright and clean
oh sure, but that's where the voice is a dealbreaker to me. The instrumentation really puts him front and center, and I just don't like listening to him sing. I think on songs that have a bit more urgency I might get past it, but on languid atmospheric pieces it's going to work to the detriment of the song. I bet I'd like covers of more than a few of these.
yeah, the voice isn't something you'll likely ever be able to get over. i really dig it.

it's interesting that you dig stipe but don't respond to neil.
do you think they sound similar?
i would say they're similarly distinctive, and both are pretty polarizing. i happen to like both, but my feeling is that those who dislike either/both REM and neil young classify as their main objection vocal stylings.
N*gga loves Tom Waits too.
--- trufact: i've never intentionally listened to anything by tom waits
Someone needs to go get Mule Variations.

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:13 pm
by Strat
Can someone upload "safeway cart" for Stip? There is nothing on youtube. Thanks.

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:14 pm
by Heathen
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
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stip wrote:
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stip wrote:
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stip wrote:in the end I tend to not go in for fuzzy meandering guitars, and i don't really like his voice. So Neil Young is going to be a tough sell for me. Enough people whose tastes I respect swear by this guy, so I'm sure there is something here, but it's not reaching me
yeah but the majority of his 70s work isn't (aren't?) fuzzbombs. sure, a lot of it takes its time getting to where it goes, but the instrumentation is crisp and bright and clean
oh sure, but that's where the voice is a dealbreaker to me. The instrumentation really puts him front and center, and I just don't like listening to him sing. I think on songs that have a bit more urgency I might get past it, but on languid atmospheric pieces it's going to work to the detriment of the song. I bet I'd like covers of more than a few of these.
yeah, the voice isn't something you'll likely ever be able to get over. i really dig it.

it's interesting that you dig stipe but don't respond to neil.
do you think they sound similar?
i would say they're similarly distinctive, and both are pretty polarizing. i happen to like both, but my feeling is that those who dislike either/both REM and neil young classify as their main objection vocal stylings.
N*gga loves Tom Waits too.
--- trufact: i've never intentionally listened to anything by tom waits
:shock:

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:15 pm
by ---
i don't really know where to start

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:15 pm
by Strat
--- wrote:i don't really know where to start

Mule Variations

Re: The Official Neil Young Thread

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 8:15 pm
by stip
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
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stip wrote:
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stip wrote:
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stip wrote:in the end I tend to not go in for fuzzy meandering guitars, and i don't really like his voice. So Neil Young is going to be a tough sell for me. Enough people whose tastes I respect swear by this guy, so I'm sure there is something here, but it's not reaching me
yeah but the majority of his 70s work isn't (aren't?) fuzzbombs. sure, a lot of it takes its time getting to where it goes, but the instrumentation is crisp and bright and clean
oh sure, but that's where the voice is a dealbreaker to me. The instrumentation really puts him front and center, and I just don't like listening to him sing. I think on songs that have a bit more urgency I might get past it, but on languid atmospheric pieces it's going to work to the detriment of the song. I bet I'd like covers of more than a few of these.
yeah, the voice isn't something you'll likely ever be able to get over. i really dig it.

it's interesting that you dig stipe but don't respond to neil.
do you think they sound similar?
i would say they're similarly distinctive, and both are pretty polarizing. i happen to like both, but my feeling is that those who dislike either/both REM and neil young classify as their main objection vocal stylings.
N*gga loves Tom Waits too.
--- trufact: i've never intentionally listened to anything by tom waits
He was a bolt of lightning for me, but I got into him when someone made me a mix tape. I'm not sure if I put on Bone Machine or Rain Dogs if it would have stuck.

These were the two songs that got me started




(the album version isn't on youtube)