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Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 9:54 pm
by Strat
I didnt understand this song at first. I was taken aback by it pretty aggressively and thought it was a Sammy Hagar era Van halen kind of tune. My curiosity kept me coming back and with each listen I became more and more enthralled with the song.

Then I fell in love with someone (my best friend) who was diagnosed with Cancer and not given the best odd's. This song is it. This song is the real deal.

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 9:55 pm
by Strat
bottom paged. mwahahahahahahahaha

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 9:57 pm
by epilogue
:lol:

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 9:59 pm
by epilogue
I applaud this kind of honesty. There's a real finger on the pulse quality to it. I can totally see why people dislike it, I guess. It just hits me right in the sweet spot.

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 9:59 pm
by McParadigm
I hear hints of Phil Collins at his rock bottom dullest, Springsteen's worst latter career habit-formed songwriting, and 1980's power ballad soloing.

I hear nothing Pink Floyd at all. Other than maybe it's mid-tempo and bombastic.

I consider MFS/Sirens to be the worst one-two punch in the band's career. The first has lyrics that should only be produced by massive head trauma, and the other sounds like Chris Martin's inevitable "folkier sound and session musician setup" solo career. They are impossible for me to listen to without wincing, feeling sad, and ultimately getting very, very bored.

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 10:00 pm
by epilogue
And I love Stip's analysis about coming out of the nightmare that is MFS into the sweaty terrified truth of Sirens. Makes all the sense in the world to me.

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 10:00 pm
by Strat
This song really draws a line in the sad between people who have and people who lack feelings.

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 10:01 pm
by epilogue
McParadigm, ladies and gentlemen.

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 10:05 pm
by Jorge
Not to bring the discussion back to "My Father's Son" now that we've moved on to "Sirens", but those lyrics are hardly the worst Ed has ever sung. I agree that they're bad and have clunky wording and are often nonsensical, but Ed's delivery tells me they're supposed to be at least a little silly. Ed has worse lyrical moments that are also 100% earnest.

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 10:12 pm
by Jorge
Not that "silly" excuses "bad". It just makes it a bit less cringey

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 10:48 pm
by digster
I've always felt like there was a better song hidden in the idea of this somewhere, but the song is filtered through some of Mike and Ed's worst attributes as musicians. These types of songs don't really have generate that nails-on-chalkboard reflexivity that they once did; it's more that they just exist as background. I feel like I can listen to Sirens and as soon as it's over forget I ever listened to it.

Did they ever do this at Bridge School or something? Maybe a much more sparing take could help. I also don't hear much Pink Floyd in this song. I don't doubt Mike that it was there at the song's inspiration, but I'm not sure how much made it to the finished product.

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 10:51 pm
by epilogue
Guys, think like Momentary Lapse of Reason Pink Floyd. I'm not sure how people don't hear it. Just ignore Ed.

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 10:52 pm
by Strat
durdencommatyler wrote:Guys, think like Momentary Lapse of Reason Pink Floyd. I'm not sure how people don't hear it. Just ignore Ed.

But I still love Ed :( Dont tell me to ignore him!

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 10:54 pm
by epilogue
Strat wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Guys, think like Momentary Lapse of Reason Pink Floyd. I'm not sure how people don't hear it. Just ignore Ed.

But I still love Ed :( Dont tell me to ignore him!
:lol:

I just mean if you're trying to hear"the Pink Floyd of it all.

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 10:55 pm
by digster
durdencommatyler wrote:Guys, think like Momentary Lapse of Reason Pink Floyd. I'm not sure how people don't hear it. Just ignore Ed.
I'm the first to admit I'm not too well-versed in all of Pink Floyd's catalog; I guess I was just talking about what I perceive to be their overall aesthetic musically. To be fair, I don't hear a whole lot of 80s power ballad here besides the solo, either; to me it's more reminiscent of modern Nashville pop/country with Ed singing.

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 11:04 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 11:05 pm
by Strat
This version really nailed it for me:


Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 11:07 pm
by stip
Same

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 11:08 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Sirens

Posted: Tue July 28, 2015 11:13 pm
by stip
:lol:

Sirens is one of many songs on LB harmed by its sterile production