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Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 3:55 pm
by spike
McParadigm wrote:
spike wrote:
Mine wrote:
McParadigm wrote:So which performance actually aired?

Those were pretty good, yeah. Sounded like a band who could still make an incredible record if they really wanted to.
Probably even more than one. I guess it all comes down to what one thinks of as an incredible record. I believe they need a quality record at this point of their career because their music seems to be the thing they aren't the most famous for. It's sort of evident from the interview they did with Colbert.
lol pearl jam is properly mixed for one night on tv and great record hope is renewed
Well, for clarification's sake, my post was meant to be read as "if you didn't know any better..."

I just assumed that because it was me, people would infer the underlying negativity.
Sure McP. When's your pearl jam halloween 2015 tshirt set to arrive?

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 4:00 pm
by Coach
Not a fan of the song selection, but the energy is still there. Agree, the guitars sounded awesome. These guys can still do some good things. Also, do I need a talk show to jam with PJ???

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 4:01 pm
by Strat
Geezes their guitars sound great. I wonder if theyve actually tinkered with their sound a bit

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 4:05 pm
by Strat
Coach wrote:Not a fan of the song selection, but the energy is still there. Agree, the guitars sounded awesome. These guys can still do some good things. Also, do I need a talk show to jam with PJ???

Cute to see how excited COlbert was after RITFW

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 4:25 pm
by William Bloke
That was great. Nice one PJ.

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 4:31 pm
by stip
Strat wrote:Geezes their guitars sound great. I wonder if theyve actually tinkered with their sound a bit
Check out the video version of MYM on the rarities comp. it sounds pretty similar, which continues to point to the BoB conspiracy

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 4:32 pm
by Strat
stip wrote:
Strat wrote:Geezes their guitars sound great. I wonder if theyve actually tinkered with their sound a bit
Check out the video version of MYM on the rarities comp. it sounds pretty similar, which continues to point to the BoB conspiracy

Well their guitars dont sound that great on the boots either, or when I see them live. I just wonder if they use a different setup for smaller performances compared to larger arena tours.

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 4:36 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 4:36 pm
by darth_vedder
Varis wrote:That was great. Nice one PJ.

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 4:37 pm
by VinylGuy
Fuuuck Mind your manners was intense!!!! i loved it. Really exited about the show in 2 weeks.

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 4:39 pm
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
Strat wrote:Geezes their guitars sound great. I wonder if theyve actually tinkered with their sound a bit
Check out the video version of MYM on the rarities comp. it sounds pretty similar, which continues to point to the BoB conspiracy

Well their guitars dont sound that great on the boots either, or when I see them live. I just wonder if they use a different setup for smaller performances compared to larger arena tours.
I think that all arena concerts sound like shit. Modern inclination is to crank up the bass and kick, which just creates a ton of noise when played in an enormous, reflective stadium. Smaller venues, and outdoor venues with great sound systems, are usually way better.

Edit: I don't think it has anything to do with "setup," per se. The problem in arenas is that their amps are pumped through massive PA systems. They are likely using the exact same amps on Colbert, it's just that there's not so much volume bouncing off of hard, reflective surfaces.
Yea but the boots should be recorded as part direct from the board, stage mics and venue mics no? Feel like they would sound better if that were the case. Maybe stone treated himself to a new fuzz or something.

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 4:47 pm
by McParadigm
spike wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
spike wrote:
Mine wrote:
McParadigm wrote:So which performance actually aired?

Those were pretty good, yeah. Sounded like a band who could still make an incredible record if they really wanted to.
Probably even more than one. I guess it all comes down to what one thinks of as an incredible record. I believe they need a quality record at this point of their career because their music seems to be the thing they aren't the most famous for. It's sort of evident from the interview they did with Colbert.
lol pearl jam is properly mixed for one night on tv and great record hope is renewed
Well, for clarification's sake, my post was meant to be read as "if you didn't know any better..."

I just assumed that because it was me, people would infer the underlying negativity.
Sure McP. When's your pearl jam halloween 2015 tshirt set to arrive?

Not soon enough!!! :heartbeat:

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 4:48 pm
by Strat
McParadigm wrote:
spike wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
spike wrote:
Mine wrote:
McParadigm wrote:So which performance actually aired?

Those were pretty good, yeah. Sounded like a band who could still make an incredible record if they really wanted to.
Probably even more than one. I guess it all comes down to what one thinks of as an incredible record. I believe they need a quality record at this point of their career because their music seems to be the thing they aren't the most famous for. It's sort of evident from the interview they did with Colbert.
lol pearl jam is properly mixed for one night on tv and great record hope is renewed
Well, for clarification's sake, my post was meant to be read as "if you didn't know any better..."

I just assumed that because it was me, people would infer the underlying negativity.
Sure McP. When's your pearl jam halloween 2015 tshirt set to arrive?

Not soon enough!!! :heartbeat:

Im going to buy you PJ Socks.

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 5:11 pm
by bodysnatcher
Guys, the most important part here is that Jeff was wearing a hat. RETURN TO FORM!

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 5:15 pm
by bodysnatcher
I like the little chuckle Ed does right before the very last scream at the end. Vintage Ed sound there.

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 5:41 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 5:45 pm
by EJ
tragabigzanda wrote:
Strat wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:
Strat wrote:Geezes their guitars sound great. I wonder if theyve actually tinkered with their sound a bit
Check out the video version of MYM on the rarities comp. it sounds pretty similar, which continues to point to the BoB conspiracy

Well their guitars dont sound that great on the boots either, or when I see them live. I just wonder if they use a different setup for smaller performances compared to larger arena tours.
I think that all arena concerts sound like shit. Modern inclination is to crank up the bass and kick, which just creates a ton of noise when played in an enormous, reflective stadium. Smaller venues, and outdoor venues with great sound systems, are usually way better.

Edit: I don't think it has anything to do with "setup," per se. The problem in arenas is that their amps are pumped through massive PA systems. They are likely using the exact same amps on Colbert, it's just that there's not so much volume bouncing off of hard, reflective surfaces.
Yea but the boots should be recorded as part direct from the board, stage mics and venue mics no? Feel like they would sound better if that were the case. Maybe stone treated himself to a new fuzz or something.
Stone was definitely up to something. Whether it was some new gear, or just playing the song with a different energy, he did sound different. Whether it's a mixing decision, or just microphone/arena bleed, those boots always sound like they were recorded in an arena. I think that at a certain point, you just can't escape the size of that sound.
I guess my question would be, why have the guitars sounded so weak/thin on past talk show/SNL performances? This was so much different.

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 5:47 pm
by bodysnatcher
I think it's the way live acts are mixed for tv. They always scale back the instruments and way overemphasize the vocals. SNL is notorious for this. That's the first musical performance I've seen on the new Late Show, but whoever was on that soundboard did an excellent job. If that continues, he'll be the best show for musical guests.

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 5:56 pm
by Monkey_Driven
bodysnatcher wrote:I think it's the way live acts are mixed for tv. They always scale back the instruments and way overemphasize the vocals. SNL is notorious for this. That's the first musical performance I've seen on the new Late Show, but whoever was on that soundboard did an excellent job. If that continues, he'll be the best show for musical guests.
It helps the show is taped in an actual theatre. I remember the Letterman aftershow performance in 2006 having pretty good sound too.

Re: Pearl Jam on Colbert! September 23, 2015

Posted: Thu September 24, 2015 6:00 pm
by ridleybradout
stip wrote:
Strat wrote:Geezes their guitars sound great. I wonder if theyve actually tinkered with their sound a bit
Check out the video version of MYM on the rarities comp. it sounds pretty similar, which continues to point to the BoB conspiracy
Guys, it's pretty simple - this performance and the video version are the ONLY times they've ever played the song in the same key as the album version. It's the down-tuning at shows to allow Ed to cope that makes it sound so much more muddy and less satisfying in concert.