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[tragabigzanda]

pearl jam sucks now

[stip]

You can sort of here Ed starting to experiment with a grittier vocal on that, the thing that would eventually be debuted on Blood, and then appear all over Vitalogy.

As great as it sounds on records, and not taking anything away from that performance, the scream until hoarse approach was never my favorite live tactic - it robbed Eddies performance of the soaring beauty and clarity that his voice had. You can hear the difference during those moments in the video when he is actually singing

[dimejinky99]

Saw my first ever PJ show this day 20 years ago. First date on the due leg for No Code.
Time flies

[stip]

that's a pretty oversized ticket

[tragabigzanda]

pearl jam sucks now

[wease]

Do you think there was ever a time when either eight or Jeff liked Dave A?

[Fuzzcharger]

Saw my first ever PJ show this day 20 years ago. First date on the due leg for No Code.
Time flies

I don't think I've ever seen EV with a Gibson ES335 before. Cool!

[Birds in Hell]

Mike occasionally used one that looks very similar on the Vitalogy tour, I wonder if it's his.

[Kevin Davis]

What a great stage setup.

[bodysnatcher]

agreed, it's by far my favorite live stage setup, maybe ever. it has a whole "we're playing in your 1970's basement" vibe to it

[dimejinky99]

Saw my first ever PJ show this day 20 years ago. First date on the due leg for No Code.
Time flies

I don't think I've ever seen EV with a Gibson ES335 before. Cool!

He was playing present tense in that shot. Funny I don't think I've seen it before or since either.

[WtOB?]

Saw my first ever PJ show this day 20 years ago. First date on the due leg for No Code.
Time flies

I don't think I've ever seen EV with a Gibson ES335 before. Cool!

He was playing present tense in that shot. Funny I don't think I've seen it before or since either.

im not very good with guitars, is this it?

[Fuzzcharger]

Yup that's a Gibson ES335.

[hlniv]

So Dave should be included cos he was in the band when they were super famous?


Jesus Christ

Yes, that's correct.

And they wouldn't have been as famous without him. He was a part of their image for a very critical 2-3 year period.

Follow your logic. He didnt play on ten. The record that broke them. He couldn't really play anything outside that same best at different speeds.. He had stupid hair was too happy and annoyed everyone.

He should be thankful for his job at bugerking.

My scientific polling tells me that 97% of Pearl Jam fans in the early to mid 90's (i.e. when they found the success that changes their lives), first became aware of Pearl Jam when Dave A was their drummer. His presence on the MTV performances alone (Jeremy, RITFW, Animal, Unplugged!) should have cemented him as in the Pearl Jam "classic lineup". Most anyone who became a fan before 1996 will point to one of these performances as a primary reason that they became interested.

How someone doesn't see this is beyond my capacity for understanding.

While he is not my first choice PJ drummer (Jack Irons is), trying to deny his connection with (and importance to) the success of the band is ludicrous. Eddie and the Jams better see that and try to do something about it. It's just the right thing to do after 22 years.

[William Bloke]

So Dave should be included cos he was in the band when they were super famous?


Jesus Christ

Yes, that's correct.

And they wouldn't have been as famous without him. He was a part of their image for a very critical 2-3 year period.

Follow your logic. He didnt play on ten. The record that broke them. He couldn't really play anything outside that same best at different speeds.. He had stupid hair was too happy and annoyed everyone.

He should be thankful for his job at bugerking.

My scientific polling tells me that 97% of Pearl Jam fans in the early to mid 90's (i.e. when they found the success that changes their lives), first became aware of Pearl Jam when Dave A was their drummer. His presence on the MTV performances alone (Jeremy, RITFW, Animal, Unplugged!) should have cemented him as in the Pearl Jam "classic lineup". Most anyone who became a fan before 1996 will point to one of these performances as a primary reason that they became interested.

How someone doesn't see this is beyond my capacity for understanding.

While he is not my first choice PJ drummer (Jack Irons is), trying to deny his connection with (and importance to) the success of the band is ludicrous. Eddie and the Jams better see that and try to do something about it. It's just the right thing to do after 22 years.

Well said.

[wease]

So Dave should be included cos he was in the band when they were super famous?


Jesus Christ

Yes, that's correct.

And they wouldn't have been as famous without him. He was a part of their image for a very critical 2-3 year period.

Follow your logic. He didnt play on ten. The record that broke them. He couldn't really play anything outside that same best at different speeds.. He had stupid hair was too happy and annoyed everyone.

He should be thankful for his job at bugerking.

My scientific polling tells me that 97% of Pearl Jam fans in the early to mid 90's (i.e. when they found the success that changes their lives), first became aware of Pearl Jam when Dave A was their drummer. His presence on the MTV performances alone (Jeremy, RITFW, Animal, Unplugged!) should have cemented him as in the Pearl Jam "classic lineup". Most anyone who became a fan before 1996 will point to one of these performances as a primary reason that they became interested.

How someone doesn't see this is beyond my capacity for understanding.

While he is not my first choice PJ drummer (Jack Irons is), trying to deny his connection with (and importance to) the success of the band is ludicrous. Eddie and the Jams better see that and try to do something about it. It's just the right thing to do after 22 years.

Change that to Dave A IS my choice of Pearl Jam drummer and I agree with everything you said.

[Tuolumne]

I think Jeremy is a lock. That MTV performance where Ed goes all shit balls at the end was an iconic moment and at the time really kicked in more fans on the bandwagon. I remember, because I lived it.

I'm not sure that I'd agree that it's a lock, only because of their (seemingly) conflicted relationship with that song. (I mean, between Atlanta '94 and Red Rocks '95, they basically rewrote it twice.) I feel like if there's any one song that represents what Ed was fighting against in 1994 (other than possibly "Black"), it's that one. And, maybe I'm alone in thinking this, but the modern performances of it feel weird, like Ed's not really buying into it, but is still doing his best to get the crowd into it.

But I could not agree more about the weight of that MTV performance. (MTV had that performance in regular rotation, even when they were also playing the regular video.) The thing about it - if you look at where Ed's going shitballs, so is Dave. They're basically going shitballs in tandem - at times, Ed is almost doing a vocal version of what Dave is playing (or vise-versa).

By the time of that performance, I'd spent the entire summer listening almost exclusively to Ten and was a little bit burned out on it. But after that performance, I was in love with that song all over again, and even more so than before. Krusen could never have pulled off a performance like that.

The build-up to that moment at 4:18, and especially that moment.

Then you have Stone running/hopping in circles... The whole band was all-in on this one.

1992 was def a gradual falling in love period for me. I was a total hip hop head prior to this and hair metal didn't mean jack to me.

Slowly, the Alive video in MTV Buzz Bin piqued my interest, like "who's this dude singing sorta funny". The Even Flow video wowed me w/ all the physicality, I'd never seen that before. The MTV Unplugged gave us a full hour of the passion. Then, this VMA performance just gave me the absolute chills. I couldn't believe how intense it was. That whole fall/winter/spring was about the Jeremy video. And then it was the '93 VMA and Animal/RITFW and it was lights out for me by then. So, yeah, somebody give Dave A a bone, he's been left out, he needs to get his due for just one night.

[dimejinky99]

It's always been weird to my mind that generally RM slates pearl jam and takes them apart ..the only time any love is really shown or passions rise, is on the drummer debate.

And it never about the period or record that drummer played in, but the drummer themselves.

Odd that.

[E.H. Ruddock]

It's always been weird to my mind that generally RM slates pearl jam and takes them apart ..the only time any love is really shown or passions rise, is on the drummer debate.

And it never about the period or record that drummer played in, but the drummer themselves.

Odd that.

Matt Chamberlain or gtfo

[EJ]

Jimmy Shoaf should get an invite to the ceremony as well.