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Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 1:18 am
by Rob
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Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 1:21 am
by Rob
I'd bet Sweden changes its mind soon.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 1:37 am
by verb_to_trust
I'm curious about Australia. Aren't they led by a dumbass? Why aren't they having more of a bad time?

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 1:45 am
by McParadigm
jfc

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 2:07 am
by Chris_H_2
I’ve been really impressed by Governor Pritzker through this crisis. He’s been on top of his game.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 2:13 am
by verb_to_trust
Yeah, JB has risen to the challenge

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 2:27 am
by 96583UP
verb_to_trust wrote:I'm curious about Australia. Aren't they led by a dumbass? Why aren't they having more of a bad time?
fire cleanses all

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 2:56 am
by Rob
https://nypost.com/2020/04/04/most-amer ... fted-poll/
An overwhelming majority of the American public — 87% — is now making the effort to stay at home when possible, a new HuffPost/YouGov survey finds, with most saying they’ll continue to do so this month regardless of any official limitations.

Just 7% of Americans say they’re not currently trying to stay home when possible, with another 6% unsure. By a 70-point margin (79% versus 9%), Americans say that the states that have issued stay-at-home orders made the right decision in doing so.
I do wonder if people will go back to work only when they're good and ready (and feel the risk is gone). Consider that we are, at a minimum, halfway or so into this shutdown. Good chance it's longer. In 2-3 weeks, money will start flowing to pay people to stay home. Guaranteed for 4 months to the unemployed. It's gonna be hard to put the workforce back together after this. New habits/lifestyles are going to form.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 3:00 am
by 96583UP
Rob wrote:https://nypost.com/2020/04/04/most-amer ... fted-poll/
An overwhelming majority of the American public — 87% — is now making the effort to stay at home when possible, a new HuffPost/YouGov survey finds, with most saying they’ll continue to do so this month regardless of any official limitations.

Just 7% of Americans say they’re not currently trying to stay home when possible, with another 6% unsure. By a 70-point margin (79% versus 9%), Americans say that the states that have issued stay-at-home orders made the right decision in doing so.
I do wonder if people will go back to work only when they're good and ready (and feel the risk is gone). Consider that we are, at a minimum, halfway or so into this shutdown. Good chance it's longer. In 2-3 weeks, money will start flowing to pay people to stay home. Guaranteed for 4 months to the unemployed. It's gonna be hard to put the workforce back together after this. New habits/lifestyles are going to form.
a few balls of hashish and pokerstars 20 hours a day will get us through this

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 3:18 am
by Rob
I guess what I'm saying is that I have a wife who can work from home for as long as it takes, and 3 young kids that I've actually grown to like a lot more these last 15 or so days. I don't like the anxiety of waiting to get sick, but lots of people are going to get used to this, and won't want to go all the way back. Some people live the flipside, of course. One of the guys I (used to) manage spent his savings on a mini Winnebago, and is basically living in our parking lot.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 3:24 am
by 96583UP
yes definitely

and not like anyone can really step into an office and do an interview right now anyway? or that many firms are hiring other than amazon delivery.... lots of hiring freezes right now

but those kids' colleges wont pay for themselves

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dental plan

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 3:26 am
by Mickey
I certainly don't think things are going to go back to "normal," but I would wager that the changes in employment will trend more towards increased flexibilization and an offloading of the responsibility for labor reproduction onto the worker than it will towards empowering laborers. More of a "since you can work from home, we, the company, no longer need to pay for office space or broadband wifi, as that's your responsibility" situation.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 3:53 am
by verb_to_trust
Rob wrote:https://nypost.com/2020/04/04/most-amer ... fted-poll/
An overwhelming majority of the American public — 87% — is now making the effort to stay at home when possible, a new HuffPost/YouGov survey finds, with most saying they’ll continue to do so this month regardless of any official limitations.

Just 7% of Americans say they’re not currently trying to stay home when possible, with another 6% unsure. By a 70-point margin (79% versus 9%), Americans say that the states that have issued stay-at-home orders made the right decision in doing so.
I do wonder if people will go back to work only when they're good and ready (and feel the risk is gone). Consider that we are, at a minimum, halfway or so into this shutdown. Good chance it's longer. In 2-3 weeks, money will start flowing to pay people to stay home. Guaranteed for 4 months to the unemployed. It's gonna be hard to put the workforce back together after this. New habits/lifestyles are going to form.
I think there are a lot of people eager to get back to work too though. The sooner people are asked back, the more likely a short furlough doesn't turn into a permanent layoff. Or worse, the employer closes up shop permanently. 4 months of minimal financial security shouldn't outweigh that for most people but what do I know?

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 4:00 am
by knee tunes
Mickey wrote:I certainly don't think things are going to go back to "normal," but I would wager that the changes in employment will trend more towards increased flexibilization and an offloading of the responsibility for labor reproduction onto the worker than it will towards empowering laborers. More of a "since you can work from home, we, the company, no longer need to pay for office space or broadband wifi, as that's your responsibility" situation.
tldr

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 4:01 am
by knee tunes

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 4:03 am
by B
knee tunes wrote:https://vm.tiktok.com/tWe5Nr/
That pretty much captures America right now.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 4:05 am
by verb_to_trust
knee tunes wrote:
Mickey wrote:I certainly don't think things are going to go back to "normal," but I would wager that the changes in employment will trend more towards increased flexibilization and an offloading of the responsibility for labor reproduction onto the worker than it will towards empowering laborers. More of a "since you can work from home, we, the company, no longer need to pay for office space or broadband wifi, as that's your responsibility" situation.
tldr

How's your shoulder? I assume any surgery you had planned got pushed back as an elective procedure.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 4:05 am
by Rob
verb_to_trust wrote:
Rob wrote:https://nypost.com/2020/04/04/most-amer ... fted-poll/
An overwhelming majority of the American public — 87% — is now making the effort to stay at home when possible, a new HuffPost/YouGov survey finds, with most saying they’ll continue to do so this month regardless of any official limitations.

Just 7% of Americans say they’re not currently trying to stay home when possible, with another 6% unsure. By a 70-point margin (79% versus 9%), Americans say that the states that have issued stay-at-home orders made the right decision in doing so.
I do wonder if people will go back to work only when they're good and ready (and feel the risk is gone). Consider that we are, at a minimum, halfway or so into this shutdown. Good chance it's longer. In 2-3 weeks, money will start flowing to pay people to stay home. Guaranteed for 4 months to the unemployed. It's gonna be hard to put the workforce back together after this. New habits/lifestyles are going to form.
I think there are a lot of people eager to get back to work too though. The sooner people are asked back, the more likely a short furlough doesn't turn into a permanent layoff. Or worse, the employer closes up shop permanently. 4 months of minimal financial security shouldn't outweigh that for most people but what do I know?
I don't disagree with any of that. I just think we're 2-3 weeks in, this will easily go another ~4 weeks. The longer it goes, the longer it takes to put back together. No doubt there will also be plenty of people itching to go back to work. Just wonder if we can put Humpty Dumpty totally back together again.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 4:12 am
by Mickey
Might be useful to differentiate between people itching to go back to work and people itching to escape from virus-induced financial precarity.

Re: Anybody want a Corona?

Posted: Tue April 07, 2020 4:17 am
by knee tunes
verb_to_trust wrote:
knee tunes wrote:
Mickey wrote:I certainly don't think things are going to go back to "normal," but I would wager that the changes in employment will trend more towards increased flexibilization and an offloading of the responsibility for labor reproduction onto the worker than it will towards empowering laborers. More of a "since you can work from home, we, the company, no longer need to pay for office space or broadband wifi, as that's your responsibility" situation.
tldr

How's your shoulder? I assume any surgery you had planned got pushed back as an elective procedure.
It's a two-tendon tear so they call it massive - supra and inter supra I think - both more than.5 cm retracted so that means not an operation by it's normal means . But within the last year or two the doctors came up with something surgery and in 2020 they fixed that fault with a repair they call the "sandwich" .

Have you been dislocated since?



Also, hey! ok dickey. I mean Mickey dickey