Red Mosquito

bune wrote:Still haven't seen the trailer - it's been a particularly active Friday afternoon here and ideas are flying - but I saw this:

and I can't disagree.

I fully respect that opinion. However, Rogue One may be the best non OT movie, and it doesn't have John Williams music.

It's a nice sentiment, for sure. Williams' music has been amazing in the saga and it will be missed. But if TFA being the first SW movie made without George Lucas involved doesn't disqualify that film as "True Star Wars" then nothing does.

durdencommatyler wrote:It's a nice sentiment, for sure. Williams' music has been amazing in the saga and it will be missed. But if TFA being the first SW movie made without George Lucas involved doesn't disqualify that film as "True Star Wars" then nothing does.

George ruined SW.

Monkey_Driven wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:It's a nice sentiment, for sure. Williams' music has been amazing in the saga and it will be missed. But if TFA being the first SW movie made without George Lucas involved doesn't disqualify that film as "True Star Wars" then nothing does.

George ruined SW.

He also created it.

Also, there's nothing wrong with Star Wars now. He didn't ruin anything.

Monkey_Driven wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:It's a nice sentiment, for sure. Williams' music has been amazing in the saga and it will be missed. But if TFA being the first SW movie made without George Lucas involved doesn't disqualify that film as "True Star Wars" then nothing does.

George ruined SW.

The prequels are so unappreciated here, it's sad. For their flaws, they also do many things better than the sequels. George certainly didn't ruin SW.

durdencommatyler wrote:Also, there's nothing wrong with Star Wars now. He didn't ruin anything.

Yes, even if you hate what he did with the prequels, the above sentence is correct.

I don't like any of the PT films more than the modern day crop of SW films, but I do really appreciate a lot of the PT. Some really cool stuff in there. Some fucking terrible stuff, too. But I think there's some weird/bad/clunky stuff in all SW films.

Sarcasm is hard.

Monkey_Driven wrote:Sarcasm is hard.

Is it though

durdencommatyler wrote:I don't like any of the PT films more than the modern day crop of SW films, but I do really appreciate a lot of the PT. Some really cool stuff in there. Some fucking terrible stuff, too. But I think there's some weird/bad/clunky stuff in all SW films.

True. We may rate/rank the movies a bit differently, but I can agree with everything else of that.

daft twat wrote:Fav YouTube comment: “Palpatine is back? You can’t be Sidious!”

I think it’s funnier if you read it with Balki from Perfect Stranger’s voice.

lol

Anders wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:It's a nice sentiment, for sure. Williams' music has been amazing in the saga and it will be missed. But if TFA being the first SW movie made without George Lucas involved doesn't disqualify that film as "True Star Wars" then nothing does.

George ruined SW.

The prequels are so unappreciated here, it's sad. For their flaws, they also do many things better than the sequels. George certainly didn't ruin SW.

I love 2 & 3.

Lucas made up for the bad stuff from the prequels with The Clone Wars.

Well, except for Jar Jar. Nothing can make up for that.

Anders wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I don't like any of the PT films more than the modern day crop of SW films, but I do really appreciate a lot of the PT. Some really cool stuff in there. Some fucking terrible stuff, too. But I think there's some weird/bad/clunky stuff in all SW films.

True. We may rate/rank the movies a bit differently, but I can agree with everything else of that.

I've really grown to love the PT even with the flaws. Obi-Wan is one of my favorite all time characters. And I think a lot of the imagery and camera work is gorgeous. Lucas could have used more help but he's always been a better "idea man" than anything else I think.

Either way, I don't hate any of the Star Wars films to date. There are things to like in all of them.

wease wrote:Lucas made up for the bad stuff from the prequels with The Clone Wars.

Well, except for Jar Jar. Nothing can make up for that.

I do love that Jar Jar/Mace arc in the later seasons (5 maybe??) of Clone Wars, though.

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:Sarcasm is hard.

Is it though

For you.

Monkey_Driven wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:Sarcasm is hard.

Is it though

For you.

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Everyone’s a critic looking back up the river

Anders wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:In all seriousness I don't think Palpatine will be alive again in this. I think he's the McGuffin. Kylo and Rey are both after something that connects to him. We'll see him in hologram/holocron form, or in a flashback. But that's it.

I agree that something like that is the most likely, probably in the old death star.

I see no reason he can’t come back as a force ghost a la Obi-Wan, Anakin, Yoda and Luke.