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elliseamos wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

Norris wrote:Really want Jack Leiter.

There were some rumors that he was floating above-slot salary requirements to teams 1-3 so that he would be there for #4. Looking to play for a winner, and why wouldn't he? He could be starting next summer.

I'm all for it.

The kid from Taiwan had a nice debut. The future is bright!

gotta wear shades...

Simple Torture wrote:

Norris wrote:Really want Jack Leiter.

There were some rumors that he was floating above-slot salary requirements to teams 1-3 so that he would be there for #4. Looking to play for a winner, and why wouldn't he? He could be starting next summer.

Yeah I've heard he wants Boston.

Norris wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

Norris wrote:Really want Jack Leiter.

There were some rumors that he was floating above-slot salary requirements to teams 1-3 so that he would be there for #4. Looking to play for a winner, and why wouldn't he? He could be starting next summer.

Yeah I've heard he wants Boston.

Yup. Which means he'll go to Detroit.

doug rr wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

Norris wrote:Really want Jack Leiter.

There were some rumors that he was floating above-slot salary requirements to teams 1-3 so that he would be there for #4. Looking to play for a winner, and why wouldn't he? He could be starting next summer.

I'm all for it.

The kid from Taiwan had a nice debut. The future is bright!

gotta wear shades...

Thanks, Doug!

She's clearly a Kike fan. And with that hose, who wouldn't be.

elliseamos wrote:The kid from Taiwan had a nice debut. The future is bright!

He got promoted to Salem after one start in the Florida Complex League and had a nice debut in A:

Simple Torture wrote:

Norris wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

Norris wrote:Really want Jack Leiter.

There were some rumors that he was floating above-slot salary requirements to teams 1-3 so that he would be there for #4. Looking to play for a winner, and why wouldn't he? He could be starting next summer.

Yeah I've heard he wants Boston.

Yup. Which means he'll go to Detroit.

Latest Fangraphs mock has Leiter going #2 to Texas: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/mock-draft-2-0-3/

I know it was early, but why not put otahni on 1st with the int. bb, and pitch around him?

Why didn't they take Rocker?

elliseamos wrote:Why didn't they take Rocker?

They think Mayer is better?

Simple Torture wrote:

elliseamos wrote:Why didn't they take Rocker?

They think Mayer is better?

They do?

elliseamos wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

elliseamos wrote:Why didn't they take Rocker?

They think Mayer is better?

They do?

I dont pretend to know anything about these players, but he was universally ranked as the top prospect in the draft.

numbers wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

elliseamos wrote:Why didn't they take Rocker?

They think Mayer is better?

They do?

I dont pretend to know anything about these players, but he was universally ranked as the top prospect in the draft.

But they need pitchers and now will use over slot money for this kid, when they could have done so later in the draft.

He could be amazing, who knows, but if you need pitching take pitchers.

elliseamos wrote:

numbers wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

elliseamos wrote:Why didn't they take Rocker?

They think Mayer is better?

They do?

I dont pretend to know anything about these players, but he was universally ranked as the top prospect in the draft.

But they need pitchers and now will use over slot money for this kid, when they could have done so later in the draft.

He could be amazing, who knows, but if you need pitching take pitchers.

Most teams draft based on the best player available, though, because needs change so much from year to year.

The Red Sox need pitching today, sure, but Rocker wouldn't have helped them this season. And even if Leiter had fallen to them, he's not helping this year. Maybe next year, the year after more likely they would be up. Maybe. And who's to say that at that point, Bello isn't up and pitching like an All Star? Maybe Song is back. Maybe Groome straightens it out. Mata comes back from TJ and is lights out. Seabold is solid. Suddenly, you don't need pitching. It'll sure be nice to have a blue-chip shortstop in the system when our current SS opts out and leaves in free agency.

Simple Torture wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

numbers wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

elliseamos wrote:Why didn't they take Rocker?

They think Mayer is better?

They do?

I dont pretend to know anything about these players, but he was universally ranked as the top prospect in the draft.

But they need pitchers and now will use over slot money for this kid, when they could have done so later in the draft.

He could be amazing, who knows, but if you need pitching take pitchers.

Most teams draft based on the best player available, though, because needs change so much from year to year.

The Red Sox need pitching today, sure, but Rocker wouldn't have helped them this season. And even if Leiter had fallen to them, he's not helping this year. Maybe next year, the year after more likely they would be up. Maybe. And who's to say that at that point, Bello isn't up and pitching like an All Star? Maybe Song is back. Maybe Groome straightens it out. Mata comes back from TJ and is lights out. Seabold is solid. Suddenly, you don't need pitching. It'll sure be nice to have a blue-chip shortstop in the system when our current SS opts out and leaves in free agency.

I'm not talking about the Sox needing pitching, I'm talking about the system depth. And I do get the pick and am excited for it, I'm mostly just being contrarian and had in my mind they'd take Leiter or Rocker.

Here's hoping he works out. It'd be nice to maintain strength at ss (as you described).

elliseamos wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

numbers wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

elliseamos wrote:Why didn't they take Rocker?

They think Mayer is better?

They do?

I dont pretend to know anything about these players, but he was universally ranked as the top prospect in the draft.

But they need pitchers and now will use over slot money for this kid, when they could have done so later in the draft.

He could be amazing, who knows, but if you need pitching take pitchers.

Most teams draft based on the best player available, though, because needs change so much from year to year.

The Red Sox need pitching today, sure, but Rocker wouldn't have helped them this season. And even if Leiter had fallen to them, he's not helping this year. Maybe next year, the year after more likely they would be up. Maybe. And who's to say that at that point, Bello isn't up and pitching like an All Star? Maybe Song is back. Maybe Groome straightens it out. Mata comes back from TJ and is lights out. Seabold is solid. Suddenly, you don't need pitching. It'll sure be nice to have a blue-chip shortstop in the system when our current SS opts out and leaves in free agency.

I'm not talking about the Sox needing pitching, I'm talking about the system depth. And I do get the pick and am excited for it, I'm mostly just being contrarian and had in my mind they'd take Leiter or Rocker.

Here's hoping he works out. It'd be nice to maintain strength at ss (as you described).

If Leiter AND Mayer had been available at 4, I honestly don't know what they would've done / what I would've wanted them to do.

FWIW, I think they've done a good job at adding pitching depth in the past 2 years without using the draft for it. See: Whitlock and Ort via Rule 5, Seabold, Winckowski, and Pivetta through trades. That's how you address need.

::footsteps::

i dont understand the criticism of this pick

when you're the 4th pick and the player that was supposed to go first falls to you, you take him

Norris wrote:i dont understand the criticism of this pick

when you're the 4th pick and the player that was supposed to go first falls to you, you take him

I get it. I agree. I just had in my mind that Rocker would be the guy. It just seemed like a fit on so many levels, but with Mayer sliding, I can understand Chaim's choice.

Looks like a similar slide for Fabian. Highly rated CF prospect. This seems like a really good draft based on just 2 picks.

elliseamos wrote:

numbers wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

elliseamos wrote:Why didn't they take Rocker?

They think Mayer is better?

They do?

I dont pretend to know anything about these players, but he was universally ranked as the top prospect in the draft.

But they need pitchers and now will use over slot money for this kid, when they could have done so later in the draft.

He could be amazing, who knows, but if you need pitching take pitchers.

You dont draft for need in baseball, half of these players will never even make the major leagues, and it will be years before the ones that do arrive.