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E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Bammer wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

B wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

B wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:Can someon smart please explain how disbanding a major city's police department will work? I know it isn't as simple as no police, but who then enforces the law? If you come back with "it's up to the residents to make sure everyone obeys the laws" please spare me. I'm trying to understand how disbanding and forming another enforcement group isn't just a facade to make it look like something was done but in reality you have the same people back on the job.

I suppose it means making everyone reinterview for their jobs under a new framework of policies and protections.

I think Higgs said it somewhere, but this is just going to be fuel for Trump. If nothing is explained in detail to the general population, he can spin it as "no police force will exist and you won't be safe because of the libtards".

I probably agree, but I'm not going to tell black people what to demand.

I agree fully. I just was pointing out how the always-Trumpers will spin this.

Ruddo I’d have thought you understood by now that if you point out the opposing side’s view on the internet, that automatically means you side with them.

Trump wants you to be able to go to Husky games this fall, so where does that leave you?

All of them in a full stadium or just a couple in spaced out seating?

dimejinky99 wrote:This is everywhere but Australia currently tops the poll for deaths in custody and no charges

Its a terrible statistic and things need to change for sure, but I think there's some relevance that a substantial portion of these aboriginal deaths in custody are through suicide.

That opens up an even bigger argument to be honest, and imo a worse situation, in that aboriginal youths are killing themselves at unbelievable rates.

I work with some organisations that run programs specifically targeting that issue in remote Australia, and its a terribly sad thing.

Still shit, still needs to be worked on, but I don't believe our problem is all just police violence.

Camden, NJ disbanded their PD, I believe. Philly has popped off and Camden has remained relatively peaceful throughout all this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/02/nyre ... tings.html

Higgs wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:This is everywhere but Australia currently tops the poll for deaths in custody and no charges

Its a terrible statistic and things need to change for sure, but I think there's some relevance that a substantial portion of these aboriginal deaths in custody are through suicide.

That opens up an even bigger argument to be honest, and imo a worse situation, in that aboriginal youths are killing themselves at unbelievable rates.

I work with some organisations that run programs specifically targeting that issue in remote Australia, and its a terribly sad thing.

Still shit, still needs to be worked on, but I don't believe our problem is all just police violence.

We have almost identical issues with the travelling community here. A distinct constitutionally recognised race apart even though they aren’t. Born of ordinary Irish evicted from their homes and farms by the British. Massive suicide rates among young men particularly and the most racially abused and discriminated against people in the country. Long before Decades
Before in fact, other nationalities even came here.

super nintendo chalmers wrote:Camden, NJ disbanded their PD, I believe. Philly has popped off and Camden has remained relatively peaceful throughout all this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/02/nyre ... tings.html

My understanding is that Camden abolished its city level force, then either created a county level force or just contracted with the existing Sherrif's office, which initially did not have a union. They saved some on their pension obligations as well.

They ended up rehiring most of their old police, but maybe there was something of a cultural shift in the process.

I would like to see that happen in my area, at least so they can get out from under the consent decree.

dimejinky99 wrote:

Higgs wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:This is everywhere but Australia currently tops the poll for deaths in custody and no charges

Its a terrible statistic and things need to change for sure, but I think there's some relevance that a substantial portion of these aboriginal deaths in custody are through suicide.

That opens up an even bigger argument to be honest, and imo a worse situation, in that aboriginal youths are killing themselves at unbelievable rates.

I work with some organisations that run programs specifically targeting that issue in remote Australia, and its a terribly sad thing.

Still shit, still needs to be worked on, but I don't believe our problem is all just police violence.

We have almost identical issues with the travelling community here. A distinct constitutionally recognised race apart even though they aren’t. Born of ordinary Irish evicted from their homes and farms by the British. Massive suicide rates among young men particularly and the most racially abused and discriminated against people in the country. Long before Decades
Before in fact, other nationalities even came here.

Rangi Guy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

Higgs wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:This is everywhere but Australia currently tops the poll for deaths in custody and no charges

Its a terrible statistic and things need to change for sure, but I think there's some relevance that a substantial portion of these aboriginal deaths in custody are through suicide.

That opens up an even bigger argument to be honest, and imo a worse situation, in that aboriginal youths are killing themselves at unbelievable rates.

I work with some organisations that run programs specifically targeting that issue in remote Australia, and its a terribly sad thing.

Still shit, still needs to be worked on, but I don't believe our problem is all just police violence.

We have almost identical issues with the travelling community here. A distinct constitutionally recognised race apart even though they aren’t. Born of ordinary Irish evicted from their homes and farms by the British. Massive suicide rates among young men particularly and the most racially abused and discriminated against people in the country. Long before Decades
Before in fact, other nationalities even came here.

The very ones

You could be arrested for saying there here now. Though generally it’s a term used in Britain not here.
But that depiction of them in that film is spot on. Sadly.


11% suicide rate among males. Depressing

I’m sure there’s some context we’re missing here. Right?

tragabigzanda wrote:the PD's official response is that it was a preventative measure to deter people from using the cars as weapons

Wouldn’t that involve busting tyres on every single car in the state?

Sure you can have your assault rifles no problem.
Gonna have to bust your tyres though just in case


I’ll never understand America.

dimejinky99 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:the PD's official response is that it was a preventative measure to deter people from using the cars as weapons

Wouldn’t that involve busting tyres on every single car in the state?

Sure you can have your assault rifles no problem.
Gonna have to bust your tyres though just in case


I’ll never understand America.

I understand it perfectly. What would you like to know?

Bammer wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:the PD's official response is that it was a preventative measure to deter people from using the cars as weapons

Wouldn’t that involve busting tyres on every single car in the state?

Sure you can have your assault rifles no problem.
Gonna have to bust your tyres though just in case


I’ll never understand America.

I understand it perfectly. What would you like to know?

Where to begin

dimejinky99 wrote:I’m sure there’s some context we’re missing here. Right?

https://www.startribune.com/officers-sl ... 571105692/

Meanwhile in France

Its okay guys, Erdogan figured out who all those outside agitators rioting are:

dimejinky99 wrote:Meanwhile in France

what exactly's going on here?

spike wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Meanwhile in France

what exactly's going on here?

Who knows? Dime posted it, it probably happened in 1971.

lol

That was a solid reply, ST. Well played.

In other news, is this Minneapolis cop lawyer serious? Where's the lawyers are the worst thread?