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Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 6:50 pm
by Strat
When my dad passes (9hopefully not anytime soon!) im going to start a petition to the Boss to get him to play darlington county :ohyeah!:

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 6:50 pm
by Strat
or Cadillac ranch...

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 6:52 pm
by Thejambi
McParadigm wrote:
Thejambi wrote:Thinking about Pearl Jam concert a week after your wife dies just seems odd to me. I know everyone mourns and deals with death differently so it's not my place to deem whats appropriate or not.

Based on his post i think a better tribute would be to work with the 10c to possibly auction the tickets off to the National Kidney Foundation.
Yeah, like I said, I can understand why someone would appreciate or empathize with his plight. What makes it hard for ME to get is basically this: if that song was important or special to you/her, you've got it....forever. If going to see PJ shows was your special thing, well...you're going to one. You know?

Now, my dad and I shared a love of Neil Young (I've even got a recording somewhere of us dueting on Four Strong Winds), but if he and I had planned to go to a Neil Young concert before he passed, I wouldn't even register the IDEA of trying to get that or any other song played at the show. I might not be registering the idea of the concert at ALL, for a couple of weeks. But honestly, if I did think about it...I doubt if I'd even still be going. I'd probably treat it the way you would if someone got too ill to attend. "Okay, this was supposed to be you and me...so if you can't be there, then I guess we'll sit it out." That's just the way I would feel.

To each their own, and all that, but "hey shit I'll go to that concert anyway and ask them to play that song for me" is right up there with "I'm gonna get a tattoo of my own last name" on the You Don't Make Any Sense to Me meter.
I think we are pretty much on the same page. There is no way I'd go especially if we planned a whole vacation together around that concert. I wouldn't find it therapeutic or being a tribute personally. I wouldn't enjoy a second. Then his guest has to be thinking that he/she is filling the shoes of this guys dead wife. On top of that he is almost setting PJ up to be assholes if they don't play it. If my wife was battling a disease and was philanthropic towards fighting that disease i would be doing something to help that cause.

But like you said "to each their own". I don't know him or what his dynamic was with his wife.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 7:04 pm
by surfndestroy
Thejambi wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Thejambi wrote:Thinking about Pearl Jam concert a week after your wife dies just seems odd to me. I know everyone mourns and deals with death differently so it's not my place to deem whats appropriate or not.

Based on his post i think a better tribute would be to work with the 10c to possibly auction the tickets off to the National Kidney Foundation.
Yeah, like I said, I can understand why someone would appreciate or empathize with his plight. What makes it hard for ME to get is basically this: if that song was important or special to you/her, you've got it....forever. If going to see PJ shows was your special thing, well...you're going to one. You know?

Now, my dad and I shared a love of Neil Young (I've even got a recording somewhere of us dueting on Four Strong Winds), but if he and I had planned to go to a Neil Young concert before he passed, I wouldn't even register the IDEA of trying to get that or any other song played at the show. I might not be registering the idea of the concert at ALL, for a couple of weeks. But honestly, if I did think about it...I doubt if I'd even still be going. I'd probably treat it the way you would if someone got too ill to attend. "Okay, this was supposed to be you and me...so if you can't be there, then I guess we'll sit it out." That's just the way I would feel.

To each their own, and all that, but "hey shit I'll go to that concert anyway and ask them to play that song for me" is right up there with "I'm gonna get a tattoo of my own last name" on the You Don't Make Any Sense to Me meter.
I think we are pretty much on the same page. There is no way I'd go especially if we planned a whole vacation together around that concert. I wouldn't find it therapeutic or being a tribute personally. I wouldn't enjoy a second. Then his guest has to be thinking that he/she is filling the shoes of this guys dead wife. On top of that he is almost setting PJ up to be assholes if they don't play it. If my wife was battling a disease and was philanthropic towards fighting that disease i would be doing something to help that cause.

But like you said "to each their own". I don't know him or what his dynamic was with his wife.
I don't know. I'm taking my kid on a mini-vacation to go see Blink-182 in two months. If he died between now and then I think I'd still go on the vacation. Thinking that being on the trip would give me a chance to go through something that should have been done with him without a lot of the regular stresses of life being there. Allowing me to have moments of saying "you should be here but you're not, goodbye" while on the trip. Not sure if Blink-182 had meaning for me that I could do the show, just think that would be emotionally overwhelming. I wouldn't say I'd be setting up the band to be assholes but I have emotionally invested a lot of myself in music and like Jack Daniels, it has been with me thorough pretty much every step of life since age 13. I think I'd just be hoping that the music could come through and support me one more time.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 7:08 pm
by surfndestroy
Strat wrote:or Cadillac ranch...
But then you'd have to buck up the big bucks to get him buried in one, like the song says.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 7:09 pm
by harmless
I could've asked PJ to play a song for me if I was dumped by a girlfriend, but not if my wife died. I wouldn't give two shits about a PJ concert if that happened.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 7:13 pm
by Norah
stip wrote:it is one hour behind est, I believe.
It's actually the same as EST, and one hour behind EDT.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 7:13 pm
by McParadigm
harmless wrote:I could've asked PJ to play a song for me if I was dumped by a girlfriend, but not if my wife died. I wouldn't give two shits about a PJ concert if that happened.
:thumbsup:

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 7:32 pm
by Thejambi
Play Foxymophandlemama you PUSSYS!!!

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 7:34 pm
by McParadigm
Thejambi wrote:Play Foxymophandlemama you PUSSYS!!!
"My dead wife was into bondage. Please play..."

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 7:35 pm
by Thejambi
McParadigm wrote:
Thejambi wrote:Play Foxymophandlemama you PUSSYS!!!
"My dead wife was into bondage. Please play..."
My fissures are acting up...Play Blood you PUSSYS!!!

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 7:37 pm
by McParadigm
I worry that the genitally-focused aggression is really undercutting the emotional plea, though.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 7:39 pm
by Thejambi
McParadigm wrote:I worry that the genitally-focused aggression is really undercutting the emotional plea, though.
Image

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 7:40 pm
by harmless
'My fissures are acting up. I'm here.... but not much longer. Please play The End.'

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 7:41 pm
by Thejambi
harmless wrote:'My fissures are acting up. I'm here.... but not much longer. Please play The End.'
:thumbsup:

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 7:54 pm
by McParadigm
Thejambi wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I worry that the genitally-focused aggression is really undercutting the emotional plea, though.
Image
Apparently between 5 and 7 you only experience acute embarrassment accompanied by low level orgasm.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 7:56 pm
by Thejambi
McParadigm wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I worry that the genitally-focused aggression is really undercutting the emotional plea, though.
Image
Apparently between 5 and 7 you only experience acute embarrassment accompanied by low level orgasm.
Hmmmm...do you stand or do you stay seated?

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Fri July 19, 2013 7:56 pm
by McParadigm
Thejambi wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I worry that the genitally-focused aggression is really undercutting the emotional plea, though.
Image
Apparently between 5 and 7 you only experience acute embarrassment accompanied by low level orgasm.
Hmmmm...do you stand or do you stay seated?
I can't tell. It's just a yellow Walmart face in the picture.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 12:55 pm
by McParadigm
Pearl Jam Crashes Back: 'Mind Your Manners' Storms Rock Radio
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/ ... rock-radio

The appetite for new Pearl Jam music appears to be as ferocious as new single "Mind Your Manners" itself-the track this week stormed onto several rock charts even though it arrived three-and-half-days into the chart week.

The fierce thrash-rocker, which entered worldwide digital and radio release on July 11 at 3 p.m. EDT alongside the announcement of October's "Lightning Bolt" -- the band's first studio album in four years -- starts at No. 12 on Rock Airplay with 4.7 million in first-week audience, according to Nielsen BDS. It's the second-highest debut on that chart this year. The song also debuts at No. 14 on Rock Digital Songs on the strength of 17,000 downloads, according to Nielsen SoundScan. On Hot Rock Songs, it bows at No. 17.

Instead of a conventional announcement, Pearl Jam stoked anticipation for the single and album via a mysterious countdown clock at PearlJam.com that began by first ticking down to word of a major fall tour and then resetting to the July 11 zero hour that revealed "Manners" and news of "Lightning Bolt." Rock radio adds and fan downloads began the moment "Manners" was uncovered as the clock hit 00:00, and the band then posted an audio-only YouTube video of the song. The clock has now been reset to count down to the release of "Lightning Bolt," which is due Oct. 15 on Monkeywrench/Republic in the United States and Oct. 14 overseas through Universal Music Group International. Pearl Jam's previous album, 2009's "Backspacer," debuted at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 and has sold 635,000 to date, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

For Bill Weston, PD at active rock WMMR Philadelphia, "Manners" was automatically added directly into heavy rotation (20 plays through July 14), because "when Pearl Jam releases something we make a big deal about it and we were really happy to hear the single, that it rocked, that it was a little punky," he says. "Talk about an event record. This certainly is that, but it delivers the goods too. It's just got a lot of energy."

It's a sentiment shared by Ken West, PD at alternative WBOS Boston, which played "Manners" 35 times in its first three-and-a-half days. Calling the Seattle group a "pillar of the format," he says reaction has been swift and strong. "We got great feedback on it on our Facebook page and Twitter-people were just as excited as we were."

"It's such an important band for this radio station and this community," says Garett Michaels, PD of alternative KNDD Seattle (26 plays). He feels that the song is "a blazing fastball down the middle and it's just infectious," and has it "coming up about every four hours" as of press time.

All three PDs also cite the single as a solid indication of the potential strength of Lightning Bolt. "As the first release from a new album, I think it bodes well," Weston says. "We hear that the album is super-strong. We're really excited."

As an abundance of dance, pop and folk-oriented rock tracks fill playlists at alternative this year with the success of Capital Cities and Daft Punk, as well as the Lumineers and Mumford & Sons, "Mind Your Manners" has a hard rock sound that has been far less prominent on the format recently. "You have a lot of banjos and keyboards in alternative music," West says. "But there's nothing wrong with guitar. It's classic alternative."

Airplay gains are also expected next week, after "Manners" has a full week of airplay.

The song had its live debut at Pearl Jam's July 16 show in London, Ontario. Looking forward, the band long known for its live prowess will bring that to bear in support of "Lightning Bolt." Michaels says there's "a lot of buzz about the tour" that begins in Pittsburgh a few days before the album's release, and wraps with the band's first hometown Seattle show in four years.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 3:26 pm
by sweeper
Need to see if it holds up over the coming weeks. That will be the true test. Their first single always gets a good initial push out of the gates, especially in week 1.

I don't put a ton of stock in comments made by program directors at Philly/Boston/Seattle. Those are 3 markets that are going to play the hell out of whatever they release.