Red Mosquito

Eddie Vedder was definitely cool in the 90s, its only in the 2000s when he became the rocker dad guy that he became less cool but I still love him anyway

stip wrote:

tree_ wrote:I guess what I would want from a PJ album now would be for Ed to tap into something real, lyrically, and for the music to support it well. Maybe reflect on what it's like to be older and just be real, ya know? Stop trying to be badass, kewl spritzy rawkers and just be honest about some real shit. And please stop writing sentimental love songs.

this was literally the primary theme of the last two albums.

I think that's a bit of an overstatement. Sirens is a song clearly about that and was good despite the adult contemporary vibe, but most of Lightning Bolt felt far too impersonal. Gigaton was good and well produced but Comes Then Goes was one of the only real quiet personal songs. I would like an album much more quiet and personal like Comes Then Goes that reflects on age and life in a way that I'm sure Eddie can. I just don't know which other songs on the last two albums you think felt real and contemplative and dealt with those themes in an affecting way.

mikejasond wrote:

stip wrote:

tree_ wrote:I guess what I would want from a PJ album now would be for Ed to tap into something real, lyrically, and for the music to support it well. Maybe reflect on what it's like to be older and just be real, ya know? Stop trying to be badass, kewl spritzy rawkers and just be honest about some real shit. And please stop writing sentimental love songs.

this was literally the primary theme of the last two albums.

I think that's a bit of an overstatement. Sirens is a song clearly about that and was good despite the adult contemporary vibe, but most of Lightning Bolt felt far too impersonal. Gigaton was good and well produced but Comes Then Goes was one of the only real quiet personal songs. I would like an album much more quiet and personal like Comes Then Goes that reflects on age and life in a way that I'm sure Eddie can. I just don't know which other songs on the last two albums you think felt real and contemplative and dealt with those themes in an affecting way.

Buckle Up is pretty person, IMO.

Monkey_Driven wrote:

mikejasond wrote:

stip wrote:

tree_ wrote:I guess what I would want from a PJ album now would be for Ed to tap into something real, lyrically, and for the music to support it well. Maybe reflect on what it's like to be older and just be real, ya know? Stop trying to be badass, kewl spritzy rawkers and just be honest about some real shit. And please stop writing sentimental love songs.

this was literally the primary theme of the last two albums.

I think that's a bit of an overstatement. Sirens is a song clearly about that and was good despite the adult contemporary vibe, but most of Lightning Bolt felt far too impersonal. Gigaton was good and well produced but Comes Then Goes was one of the only real quiet personal songs. I would like an album much more quiet and personal like Comes Then Goes that reflects on age and life in a way that I'm sure Eddie can. I just don't know which other songs on the last two albums you think felt real and contemplative and dealt with those themes in an affecting way.

Buckle Up is pretty person, IMO.

In addition Mind Your Manners, My Father's Son, and River Cross are all addressing this explicitly, but it's also absolutely informing songs like Pendulum, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Who Ever Said, 7 Oclock, Quick Escape, SBWM, and Retrograde

Broadly Lightning Bolt is about confronting middle age and realizing you have a lot to lose and the fear of not being worthy of what you've been given. And Gigaton is about the legacy we are leaving behind for the people who will follow, and our failure to live up to our own promise.

These are reflective, middle aged albums, even if they aren't populated exclusively by quiet acoustic songs.

Good points. I guess I want a quieter, slower, sadder vibe. Just personal preference.

tree_ wrote:Good points. I guess I want a quieter, slower, sadder vibe. Just personal preference.

Why should growing old be sad? Or quiet?

Monkey_Driven wrote:

tree_ wrote:Good points. I guess I want a quieter, slower, sadder vibe. Just personal preference.

Why should growing old be sad? Or quiet?

Because my knees often hurt and Pinkalicious gives me seizures?

tragabigzanda wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

tree_ wrote:Good points. I guess I want a quieter, slower, sadder vibe. Just personal preference.

Why should growing old be sad? Or quiet?

Because my knees often hurt and Pinkalicious gives me seizures?

Fair point!
"Quieter, slower, sadder" to me sounds like something that would be done better by Vedder solo, and he got a lot of that out of the way on the uke album.
Great idea for a playlist just now.

A few quiet songs on an album are fine, but Pearl Jam should mostly fuckin' rock.

I only want them to rock as hard as rival.. like rocking chair rock

Rocking chair rock is a perfect description of “Rival” and I would be 100% happy for this to be the model for all Pearl Jam music going forward

yea thats a really great description

chair wasted! chair wasted! they are never gonna rock again

stip wrote:yea thats a really great description

Not sure about this rocking chair rock. To me
Rival is one of their heavier songs. That groove is enormous. Way more rocking than pretty much any song that has come after it (maybe besides Save You).

SJM wrote:

stip wrote:yea thats a really great description

Not sure about this rocking chair rock. To me
Rival is one of their heavier songs. That groove is enormous. Way more rocking than pretty much any song that has come after it (maybe besides Save You).

You can still bring the thunda in a rocking chair.

It's think it's the mid-tempo, back-and-forth shuffle that gives it the rocking chair vibe.

Farmer John wrote:

SJM wrote:

stip wrote:yea thats a really great description

Not sure about this rocking chair rock. To me
Rival is one of their heavier songs. That groove is enormous. Way more rocking than pretty much any song that has come after it (maybe besides Save You).

You can still bring the thunda in a rocking chair.

It's think it's the mid-tempo, back-and-forth shuffle that gives it the rocking chair vibe.

Haha makes sense that way. But when I think rocking chair I think old and taking naps. Maybe I’ve been using rocking chairs wrong all these years!

Farmer John wrote:

SJM wrote:

stip wrote:yea thats a really great description

Not sure about this rocking chair rock. To me
Rival is one of their heavier songs. That groove is enormous. Way more rocking than pretty much any song that has come after it (maybe besides Save You).

You can still bring the thunda in a rocking chair.

It's think it's the mid-tempo, back-and-forth shuffle that gives it the rocking chair vibe.

Rocking chair collection:

Rival
Sad but True
Going out West
Make it Rain
Adam raised a Cain
Silver Jet
Check my Brain
Outlaw Torn
Rain on the scarecrow
Hey hey my my
Beguiled

Am I doing this right?

I would call a new Pearl Jam album Revision. It would hint at reflection, a new perspective, need to change.

For entertainment purposes only
Revision - Pearl Jam
1. Final Step
2. Sleeping Dogs
3. Dawn of War
4. The Mirror
5. Revision
6. Burn it Down
7. The Horizon
8. Friction
9. Pay the Price
10. Truth & Consequences
11. Reality Check
12. What's Left

I would call the new album "Alive"