Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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an album about decline and trying to hold on to what you have while you have it would make sense given the times and the American left's deflation after obama turned out to not be the messiah.
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stip wrote:an album about decline and trying to hold on to what you have while you have it would make sense given the times and the American left's deflation after obama turned out to not be the messiah.

I can see that, I could see the album as a whole basically being about the world currently being in the toilet. Natural disasters, mass shootings, the toppled economy, society currently seems to be in a downward sprial so having an album full of songs covering this whole spectrum doesnt seem like a far stretch and I for one would really welcome it.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Walker Bait wrote:
stip wrote:an album about decline and trying to hold on to what you have while you have it would make sense given the times and the American left's deflation after obama turned out to not be the messiah.

I can see that, I could see the album as a whole basically being about the world currently being in the toilet. Natural disasters, mass shootings, the toppled economy, society currently seems to be in a downward sprial so having an album full of songs covering this whole spectrum doesnt seem like a far stretch and I for one would really welcome it.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Thejambi wrote:
Walker Bait wrote:
stip wrote:an album about decline and trying to hold on to what you have while you have it would make sense given the times and the American left's deflation after obama turned out to not be the messiah.

I can see that, I could see the album as a whole basically being about the world currently being in the toilet. Natural disasters, mass shootings, the toppled economy, society currently seems to be in a downward sprial so having an album full of songs covering this whole spectrum doesnt seem like a far stretch and I for one would really welcome it.
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Walker Bait wrote:
stip wrote:an album about decline and trying to hold on to what you have while you have it would make sense given the times and the American left's deflation after obama turned out to not be the messiah.

I can see that, I could see the album as a whole basically being about the world currently being in the toilet. Natural disasters, mass shootings, the toppled economy, society currently seems to be in a downward sprial so having an album full of songs covering this whole spectrum doesnt seem like a far stretch and I for one would really welcome it.
I can see that as well. From a lyrical context, Ed has voiced concerns for few years in interviews about raising children in a world like that. I can see him worrying about this as they age.
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harmless wrote:
scrub12 wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
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Lounge Lizard wrote:People are saying they heard a song called "Sirens" - where?
Which people? 'Sirens' has been rumoured and we're wondering whether it was a murky recording of a soundchecked song some of us heard.
Oh the London thing. Nevermind then.

Listened to the tune in the 2013 Tour video on YT - sounds remarkably like the chords used in CC, dont you think?
I've heard a few people say this but I'm not good enough with music and chords to tell if they're the same. That would be interesting.
Very interesting theory, I'd have to listen again but I'm currently listening to The Mynabirds so it won't happen tonight. Anyone?
The main melody for CC consists of 3 notes. The tour vid song begins with just 2 notes before it goes off into some other stuff... From what I can hear, it doesn't sound like these melodies match up with one another...

However, from a stylistic point of view, I can envision them being related pieces. The only way I could see it working is if the tour vid song is part of a new intro to CC that's being looped or altered slightly. The more I listen to it the more I could hear that song gradually working it's way into CC, but there would have to be a significant shift in the melody and rhythm... So not likely, but possible?
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bodysnatcher wrote:
Walker Bait wrote:
stip wrote:an album about decline and trying to hold on to what you have while you have it would make sense given the times and the American left's deflation after obama turned out to not be the messiah.

I can see that, I could see the album as a whole basically being about the world currently being in the toilet. Natural disasters, mass shootings, the toppled economy, society currently seems to be in a downward sprial so having an album full of songs covering this whole spectrum doesnt seem like a far stretch and I for one would really welcome it.
I can see that as well. From a lyrical context, Ed has voiced concerns for few years in interviews about raising children in a world like that. I can see him worrying about this as they age.
Exactly, I have a 5 year old son of my own and I constantly worry about what the world will be like as he gets older, better, worse, the same...I use music to express myself a lot and also to better understand myself through the art. That's why6 I'm hoping for this. Something new musically to relate our current times with, for me anyway.
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bluestate wrote:
harmless wrote:
scrub12 wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:People are saying they heard a song called "Sirens" - where?
Which people? 'Sirens' has been rumoured and we're wondering whether it was a murky recording of a soundchecked song some of us heard.
Oh the London thing. Nevermind then.

Listened to the tune in the 2013 Tour video on YT - sounds remarkably like the chords used in CC, dont you think?
I've heard a few people say this but I'm not good enough with music and chords to tell if they're the same. That would be interesting.
Very interesting theory, I'd have to listen again but I'm currently listening to The Mynabirds so it won't happen tonight. Anyone?
The main melody for CC consists of 3 notes. The tour vid song begins with just 2 notes before it goes off into some other stuff... From what I can hear, it doesn't sound like these melodies match up with one another...

However, from a stylistic point of view, I can envision them being related pieces. The only way I could see it working is if the tour vid song is part of a new intro to CC that's being looped or altered slightly. The more I listen to it the more I could hear that song gradually working it's way into CC, but there would have to be a significant shift in the melody and rhythm... So not likely, but possible?
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Walker Bait wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
Walker Bait wrote:
stip wrote:an album about decline and trying to hold on to what you have while you have it would make sense given the times and the American left's deflation after obama turned out to not be the messiah.

I can see that, I could see the album as a whole basically being about the world currently being in the toilet. Natural disasters, mass shootings, the toppled economy, society currently seems to be in a downward sprial so having an album full of songs covering this whole spectrum doesnt seem like a far stretch and I for one would really welcome it.
I can see that as well. From a lyrical context, Ed has voiced concerns for few years in interviews about raising children in a world like that. I can see him worrying about this as they age.
Exactly, I have a 5 year old son of my own and I constantly worry about what the world will be like as he gets older, better, worse, the same...I use music to express myself a lot and also to better understand myself through the art. That's why6 I'm hoping for this. Something new musically to relate our current times with, for me anyway.
I noticed today that these MYM lines, unless someone's got them right already, are:

They're taking young innocents
and they throw 'em on a burning pyre.


(So, not 'your innocence' as we'd previously thought, I don't think, and this speaks to the fear for his children's lives thing.)
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harmless wrote:
Walker Bait wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
Walker Bait wrote:
stip wrote:an album about decline and trying to hold on to what you have while you have it would make sense given the times and the American left's deflation after obama turned out to not be the messiah.

I can see that, I could see the album as a whole basically being about the world currently being in the toilet. Natural disasters, mass shootings, the toppled economy, society currently seems to be in a downward sprial so having an album full of songs covering this whole spectrum doesnt seem like a far stretch and I for one would really welcome it.
I can see that as well. From a lyrical context, Ed has voiced concerns for few years in interviews about raising children in a world like that. I can see him worrying about this as they age.
Exactly, I have a 5 year old son of my own and I constantly worry about what the world will be like as he gets older, better, worse, the same...I use music to express myself a lot and also to better understand myself through the art. That's why6 I'm hoping for this. Something new musically to relate our current times with, for me anyway.
I noticed today that these MYM lines, unless someone's got them right already, are:

They're taking young innocents
and they throw 'em on a burning pyre.


(So, not 'your innocence' as we'd previously thought, I don't think, and this speaks to the fear for his children's lives thing.)
You're right, it does sound like "young" good call. :thumbsup:
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Walker Bait wrote:
harmless wrote:
Walker Bait wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
Walker Bait wrote:
stip wrote:an album about decline and trying to hold on to what you have while you have it would make sense given the times and the American left's deflation after obama turned out to not be the messiah.

I can see that, I could see the album as a whole basically being about the world currently being in the toilet. Natural disasters, mass shootings, the toppled economy, society currently seems to be in a downward sprial so having an album full of songs covering this whole spectrum doesnt seem like a far stretch and I for one would really welcome it.
I can see that as well. From a lyrical context, Ed has voiced concerns for few years in interviews about raising children in a world like that. I can see him worrying about this as they age.
Exactly, I have a 5 year old son of my own and I constantly worry about what the world will be like as he gets older, better, worse, the same...I use music to express myself a lot and also to better understand myself through the art. That's why6 I'm hoping for this. Something new musically to relate our current times with, for me anyway.
I noticed today that these MYM lines, unless someone's got them right already, are:

They're taking young innocents
and they throw 'em on a burning pyre.


(So, not 'your innocence' as we'd previously thought, I don't think, and this speaks to the fear for his children's lives thing.)
You're right, it does sound like "young" good call. :thumbsup:
Cool. So maybe that would lend some further irony to the "Mind your manners!" line? I can almost imagine him enlisting the help of his children when singing this at home :lol: It's relevant to them without it being horribly cloying to us.
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harmless wrote:
Walker Bait wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
Walker Bait wrote:
stip wrote:an album about decline and trying to hold on to what you have while you have it would make sense given the times and the American left's deflation after obama turned out to not be the messiah.

I can see that, I could see the album as a whole basically being about the world currently being in the toilet. Natural disasters, mass shootings, the toppled economy, society currently seems to be in a downward sprial so having an album full of songs covering this whole spectrum doesnt seem like a far stretch and I for one would really welcome it.
I can see that as well. From a lyrical context, Ed has voiced concerns for few years in interviews about raising children in a world like that. I can see him worrying about this as they age.
Exactly, I have a 5 year old son of my own and I constantly worry about what the world will be like as he gets older, better, worse, the same...I use music to express myself a lot and also to better understand myself through the art. That's why6 I'm hoping for this. Something new musically to relate our current times with, for me anyway.
I noticed today that these MYM lines, unless someone's got them right already, are:

They're taking young innocents
and they throw 'em on a burning pyre.


(So, not 'your innocence' as we'd previously thought, I don't think, and this speaks to the fear for his children's lives thing.)
That is a much better lyric
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I have to agree with the sense that these seem like general terms of unrest (i.e. the cyclones and hurricanes), rather than some unified concept. I could be wrong, but it's easy to read in the lines if we feel that the other nine songs we don't know will fill in the gaps that are missing.
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I really hope that Of The Earth is on this and it sounds excellent. It's a swaggering, hold-you-down-and-shag-you kinda song.
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Juvenal wrote:I really hope that Of The Earth is on this and it sounds excellent. It's a swaggering, hold-you-down-and-shag-you kinda song.
Agreed. And Matt is playing a really nice groove that I hope he keeps. I'd be full of rage if he's simplified it for the studio.
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Juvenal wrote:I really hope that Of The Earth is on this and it sounds excellent. It's a swaggering, hold-you-down-and-shag-you kinda song.
Same here. I just hope they manage to capture the organic live sound that it really deserves. If it's a polished, crunchy piece of shit, it'll be ruined.
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I've really soured on Of the Earth . I think the jam in it is ridiculous.
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Thejambi wrote:I've really soured on Of the Earth . I think the jam in it is ridiculous.
I only really like the jam.
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