Are handjobs ok?Chris_H_2 wrote:You can stop blowing Keith Law any second now.cutuphalfdead wrote:MVP should pretty much go to the guy with the best WAR in the league.numbers wrote:I'm not really that opposed to the MVP needing to be on a good team thing.
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Why, because I think the guy who has the greatest ability to help a team win is the most valuable player?Chris_H_2 wrote:You can stop blowing Keith Law any second now.cutuphalfdead wrote:MVP should pretty much go to the guy with the best WAR in the league.numbers wrote:I'm not really that opposed to the MVP needing to be on a good team thing.
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Eck won the AL MVP in 1992 with a 2.9 WAR. Puckett who came in second with a WAR of 7.1. Just fucking ridiculous.
I also find Puckett incredibly underrated.
I also find Puckett incredibly underrated.
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And Clemens led the league with an 8.8, playing for the 7th place 73-89 Boston Red Sox.BigRedLedbetter wrote:Eck won the AL MVP in 1992 with a 2.9 WAR. Puckett who came in second with a WAR of 7.1. Just fucking ridiculous.
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And boy, did they suck. That record doesn't even do it justice, that was the first season I watched baseball.Lament wrote:And Clemens led the league with an 8.8, playing for the 7th place 73-89 Boston Red Sox.BigRedLedbetter wrote:Eck won the AL MVP in 1992 with a 2.9 WAR. Puckett who came in second with a WAR of 7.1. Just fucking ridiculous.
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Barry Larkin won the NL MVP in 1995. Love Barry Larkin. But his WAR was 5.9. Greg? Maddux had a WAR of 9.6 and finished 3rd. Dante Bichette finished second with a WAR of 1.1. 
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With Puckett being kind of close in WAR that year and his team contending (I wanna say they finished second) he probably should have won. Weird to me Kirby never won an MVP.Lament wrote:And Clemens led the league with an 8.8, playing for the 7th place 73-89 Boston Red Sox.BigRedLedbetter wrote:Eck won the AL MVP in 1992 with a 2.9 WAR. Puckett who came in second with a WAR of 7.1. Just fucking ridiculous.
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Truth.numbers wrote:Dante Bichette had one of the best homerun swings in history.
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Barry Bonds had a 7.5 (second overall behind Maddux and first among all everyday players) and finished twelfth.BigRedLedbetter wrote:Barry Larkin won the NL MVP in 1995. Love Barry Larkin. But his WAR was 5.9. Greg? Maddux had a WAR of 9.6 and finished 3rd. Dante Bichette finished second with a WAR of 1.1.
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WAR, what is it good for?!!
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Crazy. Just weird to me Larkin won.Lament wrote:Barry Bonds had a 7.5 (second overall behind Maddux and first among all everyday players) and finished twelfth.BigRedLedbetter wrote:Barry Larkin won the NL MVP in 1995. Love Barry Larkin. But his WAR was 5.9. Greg? Maddux had a WAR of 9.6 and finished 3rd. Dante Bichette finished second with a WAR of 1.1.
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If you were to give the Cy Young Award to the pitcher with the highest WAR and the MVP to the position player with the highest WAR, Bonds would have won eleven MVPs. And seven of them would have been while he still weighed like 185 pounds.
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Seriously for the worst seat in the house? Damn.Coach wrote:My guess is less than $500.Bammer wrote:I am pulling for the Cards on the chance they will have a home playoff game on 10/2 and I will see about scalping a ticket since I have never been to Busch stadium.
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The MVP analogy would be something like: you have $100 consisting of two$20 bills and six $10 bills. I have $80 consisting of a $50 bill, five $5 bills and a handful of change. Which bill is the most valuable?cutuphalfdead wrote:How does that change the value of the player? If I lost a sack of money I got nothing to show for it, but it doesn't change how valuable that sack of money was.