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Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 3:57 am
by Lament
stip wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:What kinda sales did backspacer do?
around the S/T level I think. It beat Riot Act. It may not have beaten S/T
S/T did almost 280,000 in its opening week, and Backspacer did 189,000. Combine in the declining sales of music in general, I'd have to imagine Backspacer proably sits around 100,000 or so less than S/T. But I could be completely wrong.

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 3:58 am
by BurtReynolds
foreign sales aren't real sales.

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 4:00 am
by stip
Lament wrote:
stip wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:What kinda sales did backspacer do?
around the S/T level I think. It beat Riot Act. It may not have beaten S/T
S/T did almost 280,000 in its opening week, and Backspacer did 189,000. Combine in the declining sales of music in general, I'd have to imagine Backspacer proably sits around 100,000 or so less than S/T. But I could be completely wrong.

you're probably right.

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 4:01 am
by stip
it went gold. is that 500k?

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 4:44 am
by Lament
stip wrote:it went gold. is that 500k?
Yeah, Gold is 500k, Platinum is a million, Diamond is ten million (at least by US standards).

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 8:42 am
by dimejinky99
WtOB? wrote:Get us those worldwide per-album figures then, dime.
Nearest thing I could find was a cool table on this page.
Impressive sales
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Jam_discography

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 12:05 pm
by McParadigm
Lament wrote:
stip wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:What kinda sales did backspacer do?
around the S/T level I think. It beat Riot Act. It may not have beaten S/T
S/T did almost 280,000 in its opening week, and Backspacer did 189,000. Combine in the declining sales of music in general, I'd have to imagine Backspacer proably sits around 100,000 or so less than S/T. But I could be completely wrong.
It also hung on waaaaaaay longer than S/T, and produced two much more successful radio singles than WWS. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it ended up around Binaural/ST numbers.

Interesting that Rearviewmirror is such a big catalog seller. I know it's a greatest hits package, and those tend to do well, but by those numbers it'd be triple platinum before the end of next year.

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 12:29 pm
by Thejambi
http://www.greasylake.org/the-circuit/i ... bum-sales/
1991....002....2009....Ten.............................................PLAT x 13.....13,300,000......10.01m-SScanJun13
1993....001....2000....Vs...............................................PLAT x 7.........7,400,000......6.01m-SScanJun13
1994....001....1995....Vitalogy......................................PLAT x 5.........5,900,000......4.77m-SScanJun13
1996....001....1997....No Code.....................................Platinum.........1,700,000......1.40m-SScanNov08
1998....002....1998....Yield...........................................Platinum..........1,900,000......1.61m-SScanNov08

1998....015....2002....Live On Two Legs......................Platinum..........1,200,000......924k-SScanDec06
2000....002....2000....Binaural......................................Gold...................850,000......748k-SScanNov08
2000....137....none....May 30, 2000, London...............................included below......Official Bootleg Series
2000....103....none....Jun 16, 2000, Spodek................................included below......Official Bootleg Series
2000....134....none....Jun 20, 2000, Verona.................................included below......Official Bootleg Series
2000....125....none....Jun 22, 2000, Milan....................................included below......Official Bootleg Series
2000....175....none....Jun 26, 2000, Hamburg..............................included below......Official Bootleg Series
2001....181....none....Aug 12, 2000, Tampa.................................included below......Official Bootleg Series
2001....191....none....Aug 15, 2000, Memphis..............................included below......Official Bootleg Series
2001....174....none....Aug 18, 2000, Indianapolis.........................included below......Official Bootleg Series
2001....159....none....Aug 25, 2000, Jones Beach.......................included below......Official Bootleg Series
2001....163....none....Aug 29, 2000, Boston.................................included below......Official Bootleg Series
2001....179....none....Sep 1, 2000, Philadelphia..........................included below......Official Bootleg Series
2001....176....none....Sep 5, 2000, Pittsburgh..............................included below......Official Bootleg Series
2001....152....none....Oct 22, 2000, Las Vegas............................included below......Official Bootleg Series
2001....098....none....Nov 6, 2000, Seattle...................................included below......Official Bootleg Series
2002....005....2002....Riot Act.......................................Gold...................575,000......508k-SScanJul09
2003....182....none....Mar 3, 2003, Tokyo....................................included below......Official Bootleg Series, 56k-SScanDec06
2003....169....none....May 3, 2003, State College PA..................included below......Official Bootleg Series, 81k-SScanDec06
2003....015....2004....Lost Dogs...................................Gold...................425,000......382k-SScanDec06, 2-disc multiplier for cert
2004....018....none....Live At Benaroya Hall...........................................220,000......178k-SScanDec06, 2-disc multiplier
2004....016....2005....RearViewMirror: Greatest Hits....Platinum.........1,275,000......1.21m-SScanMay13
2006....002....2006....Pearl Jam....................................Gold..................750,000......706k-SScanJul09
2007....036....none....Live At The Gorge 05/06.........................................60,000......31k-SScanApr08, 7-disc multiplier, Rhino
2007....-----....none....Live At Lollapalooza................................................35,000......iTunes exclusive, download-only (2cd equivalent)
2009....001....2010....Backspacer..................................Gold..................640,000......618k-SScanJan12
2011....021....none....Live On Ten Legs....................................................80,000......20k-SScanJan11w-2, 2-disc multiplier
2011....043....none....Vs / Vitalogy: Deluxe Edition...................................40,000......13k-SScanApr11w-1, 3cd, + 5cd Collectors ed
2011....010....none....Twenty: Original Soundtrack.................................125,000......71k-SScanMar12, 2-disc multiplier

+ Official Bootleg Series 2000-2001 (72 albums).................................1,500,000......1.21m-SScanNov02 (total for all 72 albums)

+ Official Bootleg Series 2003 (73 albums)..........................................1,100,000......

+ Official Bootleg Series 2005-2006 (100 albums)..................................800,000......3.5m (for all Bootleg Series) as of June '08 (re: Billboard)

+ Official Bootleg Series 2008-2012 (101 albums)..................................500,000......
+ domestic US sales of foreign-pressed albums.....................................275,000

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 2:35 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Backspacer sold more than Riot Act?

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 2:47 pm
by perhaps
dimejinky99 wrote:
WtOB? wrote:Get us those worldwide per-album figures then, dime.
Nearest thing I could find was a cool table on this page.
Impressive sales
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Jam_discography
Careful with this though. Those numbers, for at least the US figures, are based on shipments not sales.

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 2:54 pm
by broken iris
It's all a little misleading anyway, for example I have four copies of "Ten" on CD in you include the re-release a few years ago. Those are sales, but it's not like they were sold to four different fans.

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 3:00 pm
by evenslow
Regardless of the precise number, it's generally quite impressive how much they've continued to sell despite the music industry shitting itself and the band getting older.

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 4:12 pm
by Thejambi
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Backspacer sold more than Riot Act?
Riot Act was pretty damn quiet when that was released without a solid radio hit. Backspacer, for better or worse, had the hell promoted out of it with 2 very successful songs.

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 4:30 pm
by evenslow
Thejambi wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Backspacer sold more than Riot Act?
Riot Act was pretty damn quiet when that was released without a solid radio hit. Backspacer, for better or worse, had the hell promoted out of it with 2 very successful songs.
Yep. Riot Act was the general era in which the public-at-large barely realized PJ was still releasing new albums. That's why there was so much hype around S/T as a "comeback" of sorts. The band realized they didn't want to fall too far out of people's thoughts, so they did a ton of promotion in '06. By their sales numbers, they kind of righted the ship at that point.

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 4:57 pm
by worldwithyourheart
Thejambi wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Backspacer sold more than Riot Act?
Riot Act was pretty damn quiet when that was released without a solid radio hit. Backspacer, for better or worse, had the hell promoted out of it with 2 very successful songs.
wasn't I am Mine just as successful as WWS & the Fixer? I think Backspacer just had a better 2nd single in Just Breathe compared to Save You, and was a more accessible album than Riot Act.

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 5:01 pm
by worldwithyourheart
evenslow wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Backspacer sold more than Riot Act?
Riot Act was pretty damn quiet when that was released without a solid radio hit. Backspacer, for better or worse, had the hell promoted out of it with 2 very successful songs.
Yep. Riot Act was the general era in which the public-at-large barely realized PJ was still releasing new albums. That's why there was so much hype around S/T as a "comeback" of sorts. The band realized they didn't want to fall too far out of people's thoughts, so they did a ton of promotion in '06. By their sales numbers, they kind of righted the ship at that point.
Only 2 years had passed between Yield to Binaural, and Binaural to Riot Act. Then 4 years to self-titled. That's probably why they promoted it more.

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 5:06 pm
by melonhead4
Im thinking the tracklist was fake since it was taken down from pearljamonline.it, unless someone from the PJ team told them to take it down....im soo bummed, I need new PJ!!!!!!!!!! :twisted:

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 5:06 pm
by evenslow
worldwithyourheart wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Backspacer sold more than Riot Act?
Riot Act was pretty damn quiet when that was released without a solid radio hit. Backspacer, for better or worse, had the hell promoted out of it with 2 very successful songs.
wasn't I am Mine just as successful as WWS & the Fixer? I think Backspacer just had a better 2nd single in Just Breathe compared to Save You, and was a more accessible album than Riot Act.
I Am Mine
Modern Rock - 6
Mainstream Rock - 7
Billboard 100 - 43

WWS
Modern Rock - 1
Mainstream Rock - 2
Billboard 100 - 41

Fixer (change in chart terminology by this point)
Rock Songs - 2
Alternative Songs - 3
Mainstream Rock Tracks - 10
Billboard 100 - 56

Just Breathe
Rock Songs - 5
Alternative Songs - 6
Mainstream Rock Tracks - 36
Billboard Triple A Songs (Adult Album Alternative) - 1
Billboard 100 - 78

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 5:29 pm
by stip
the fixer and just breathe both hung around a fair bit too, more than I am Mine and WWS I believe.

Backspacer was also the first time in a long time PJ had a successful second single

Re: 10th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Wed June 12, 2013 6:50 pm
by evenslow
stip wrote:the fixer and just breathe both hung around a fair bit too, more than I am Mine and WWS I believe.

Backspacer was also the first time in a long time PJ had a successful second single
The last time being Wishlist.