Red Mosquito

wease wrote:

tree_ wrote:Show me some stats to convince me.

Here’s a stat for you. You told on a black guy at work and got him fired when it was nowhere in your job responsibilities to do so while you were admittedly violating company policy by using the work internet to play on a message board.

lol you don't know what you're talking about. My boss saw him sleeping and told me that because I also saw him sleeping I should fill out a report so I did. I guess that means I hate all people that have dark skin. This racist narrative has gotten way out of control. Basically the whole world seems to have lost their minds these days.

I really hope Mickey isn't seriously implying he wants humans working as cops to die. I really really hope he's not that bigoted.

tree_ wrote:

wease wrote:

tree_ wrote:Show me some stats to convince me.

Here’s a stat for you. You told on a black guy at work and got him fired when it was nowhere in your job responsibilities to do so while you were admittedly violating company policy by using the work internet to play on a message board.

lol you don't know what you're talking about. My boss saw him sleeping and told me that because I also saw him sleeping I should fill out a report so I did. I guess that means I hate all people that have dark skin. This racist narrative has gotten way out of control. Basically the whole world seems to have lost their minds these days.

These days? We were calling out your racism when it happened. And your hypocrisy. This isn’t some new fad for you, tree___.

PHATJ wrote:

Mickey wrote:

tree_ wrote:So, more cops are killed each year than are unarmed black suspects

Finally, a reason for hope.

Not just “more”, 5X more.

From Chappelle's SNL monologue a few years ago:

Why do we have to say that? Why do we have to say that black lives matter? Now I admit that is not the best slogan, but McDonald’s already took, “You deserve a break today.”

And I guess it’s kind of catchy because everyone else is biting it. Even the police is biting it: Blue lives matter. What, was you born a police? That is not a blue life. That’s a blue suit. If you don’t like it, take that blue suit off, find a new job, ’cause I’m going to tell you right now, if I could quit being black today, I’d be out of the game.

wease wrote:

tree_ wrote:

wease wrote:

tree_ wrote:Show me some stats to convince me.

Here’s a stat for you. You told on a black guy at work and got him fired when it was nowhere in your job responsibilities to do so while you were admittedly violating company policy by using the work internet to play on a message board.

lol you don't know what you're talking about. My boss saw him sleeping and told me that because I also saw him sleeping I should fill out a report so I did. I guess that means I hate all people that have dark skin. This racist narrative has gotten way out of control. Basically the whole world seems to have lost their minds these days.

These days? We were calling out your racism when it happened. And your hypocrisy. This isn’t some new fad for you, tree___.

So, according to you I'm racist for doing my job? Makes no sense. His being black had nothing to do with me doing my job. Boss sees employee sleeping, tells me to fill out witness report. I obey order from superior. Case closed.

You: What color was his skin though? Black? RACIST!!!

lol

tree_ wrote:I really hope Mickey isn't seriously implying he wants humans working as cops to die. I really really hope he's not that bigoted.

In a good world, more (armed) cops would die than unarmed citizens would be killed by cops each year.

Mickey wrote:

tree_ wrote:I really hope Mickey isn't seriously implying he wants humans working as cops to die. I really really hope he's not that bigoted.

In a good world, more (armed) cops would die than unarmed citizens would be killed by cops each year.

Shouldn't it depend on the situation? Don't we actually need cops in the world to do their jobs? Aren't cops human too?

"Wait a minute I think ... yeah... yep I hear an angry mob outside I'm gonna go grab my pitchfork and join them!!!"

Never mind the fact that that data cited in that screed is completely fraudulent, that of the 1098 people killed by police in 2019, 259 were black (24% of victims despite being 13% of the population), and 38 of them were confirmed unarmed (plus an untold additional number of cases where it is unclear if they were armed or not, where they are allegedly armed on the word of the police which has not been confirmed, or where the "weapon" was a knife, vehicle, etc.).

Freely available data at mappingpoliceviolence.org if you're interested in learning more

Mickey wrote:Never mind the fact that that data cited in that screed is completely fraudulent, that of the 1098 people killed by police in 2019, 259 were black (24% of victims despite being 13% of the population), and 38 of them were confirmed unarmed (plus an untold additional number of cases where it is unclear if they were armed or not, where they are allegedly armed on the word of the police which has not been confirmed, or where the "weapon" was a knife, vehicle, etc.).

Freely available data at mappingpoliceviolence.org if you're interested in learning more

He's not.

durdencommatyler wrote:

Mickey wrote:Never mind the fact that that data cited in that screed is completely fraudulent, that of the 1098 people killed by police in 2019, 259 were black (24% of victims despite being 13% of the population), and 38 of them were confirmed unarmed (plus an untold additional number of cases where it is unclear if they were armed or not, where they are allegedly armed on the word of the police which has not been confirmed, or where the "weapon" was a knife, vehicle, etc.).

Freely available data at mappingpoliceviolence.org if you're interested in learning more

He's not.

Tamir Rice was armed, yeah?

Just for reference, the cops killed 118 confirmed unarmed people overall in 2019 so we've still got some work to do, in whichever direction.

I think the point is, yeah, there are evil, horrible people out there. They can be cops or any other profession and some can be racist a**holes. Should it be harder to be a cop? Yeah. There should be more vetting. So focus on those issues. I believe all the cops responsible for those horrendous acts have been and are being dealt with. So what now? Should we go loot and destroy a mall and put some more people out of jobs?

durdencommatyler wrote:

Mickey wrote:Never mind the fact that that data cited in that screed is completely fraudulent, that of the 1098 people killed by police in 2019, 259 were black (24% of victims despite being 13% of the population), and 38 of them were confirmed unarmed (plus an untold additional number of cases where it is unclear if they were armed or not, where they are allegedly armed on the word of the police which has not been confirmed, or where the "weapon" was a knife, vehicle, etc.).

Freely available data at mappingpoliceviolence.org if you're interested in learning more

He's not.

Excuse me? Do you know me at all?

PHATJ wrote:

Mickey wrote:

tree_ wrote:So, more cops are killed each year than are unarmed black suspects

Finally, a reason for hope.

Not just “more”, 5X more.

One doesn't justify the other though. Just because that many cops died doesn't make it right for the killing of unarmed people. Why bring that stat up? Being a police officer is a dangerous job and they all know that going into it. Being unarmed and black shouldn't be dangerous.

Self wrote:Tamir Rice was armed, yeah?

Not sure if serious but just to be clear, no. He had a toy.

Self wrote:Tamir Rice was armed, yeah?

In the MPV data set, Rice is listed as "unarmed" with "toy gun" noted as "alleged weapon," and from a brief review it looks like cases with toy weapons (or "video game controller") are by and large filtered into the "unarmed" category. However, both the "unclear" and the "allegedly armed" categories contain numerous cases where the alleged weapon is something like "rock," "chair," "flashlight," "hot glue gun," "pepper spray," "pen" (I swear to god those are all real), so while it's possible for any of those items to be perceived as a weapon, or even used as one, it's safe to assume that at least some of those cases should really be considered "unarmed."

tree_ wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Mickey wrote:Never mind the fact that that data cited in that screed is completely fraudulent, that of the 1098 people killed by police in 2019, 259 were black (24% of victims despite being 13% of the population), and 38 of them were confirmed unarmed (plus an untold additional number of cases where it is unclear if they were armed or not, where they are allegedly armed on the word of the police which has not been confirmed, or where the "weapon" was a knife, vehicle, etc.).

Freely available data at mappingpoliceviolence.org if you're interested in learning more

He's not.

Excuse me? Do you know me at all?

Pretty sure I got a good handle on your shit, my man.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

Mickey wrote:

tree_ wrote:So, more cops are killed each year than are unarmed black suspects

Finally, a reason for hope.

Not just “more”, 5X more.

One doesn't justify the other though. Just because that many cops died doesn't make it right for the killing of unarmed people. Why bring that stat up? Being a police officer is a dangerous job and they all know that going into it. Being unarmed and black shouldn't be dangerous.

Ruddo gets it.