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Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:22 am
by The Argonaut
Unfortunately, we also learned in this episode that we will not be needing dragon platforms. The ships burned in Mereen so that the Iron Islands can come into play. I wonder how Dany is going to react when a civil war breaks out among her newest allies.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:23 am
by Simple Torture
The Argonaut wrote:Unfortunately, we also learned in this episode that we will not be needing dragon platforms. The ships burned in Mereen so that the Iron Islands can come into play.
There are a few things left, but Euron's plan to wed Dany and give her ships is one of the last big plot points from the books.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:26 am
by The Argonaut
Simple Torture wrote:The Argonaut wrote:Unfortunately, we also learned in this episode that we will not be needing dragon platforms. The ships burned in Mereen so that the Iron Islands can come into play.
There are a few things left, but Euron's plan to wed Dany and give her ships is one of the last big plot points from the books.
I've got to imagine she'll be happier siding with Yara than having to marry some jerk.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:32 am
by Simple Torture
Let's all keep in mind that this opens the door for a Hodor wight.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:37 am
by Norah
and Summer
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:39 am
by Zantac Junkie
cutuphalfdead wrote:and Summer
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:40 am
by Simple Torture
I got this theory from Reddit: it's been theorized/hinted at many, many times that the Others can't move past the wall due to its magical properties--the Children helped men build it, so it's their magic that's probably responsible. Seems like a similar sort of magic was keeping the Others out of the cave, until Bran fucked that up. Since Bran's been "marked," does that mean that if he goes south of the wall, they can pass it, too?
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:41 am
by Norah
Zantac Junkie wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:and Summer
I seriously fucking hate it when the wolves die.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:42 am
by Simple Torture
cutuphalfdead wrote:Zantac Junkie wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:and Summer
I seriously fucking hate it when the wolves die.
Do you think Brienne will return to the North with Nymeria and her pack in tow?
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:42 am
by Norah
Simple Torture wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Zantac Junkie wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:and Summer
I seriously fucking hate it when the wolves die.
Do you think Brienne will return to the North with Nymeria and her pack in tow?
Nymeria is gonna fuck shit up in the end game, bro.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:48 am
by Zantac Junkie
cutuphalfdead wrote:Simple Torture wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Zantac Junkie wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:and Summer
I seriously fucking hate it when the wolves die.
Do you think Brienne will return to the North with Nymeria and her pack in tow?
Nymeria is gonna fuck shit up in the end game, bro.
Arya will return to the riverlands, and Nymeria will be waiting for her.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:51 am
by Zantac Junkie
Simple Torture wrote:I got this theory from Reddit: it's been theorized/hinted at many, many times that the Others can't move past the wall due to its magical properties--the Children helped men build it, so it's their magic that's probably responsible. Seems like a similar sort of magic was keeping the Others out of the cave, until Bran fucked that up. Since Bran's been "marked," does that mean that if he goes south of the wall, they can pass it, too?
That sounds about right. Bran and Meera will pass the Wall through the tunnel under the Nightfort, and the Night's King will follow.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:55 am
by Simple Torture
I've gotta think more about this, but I think we've gotta focus a bit more on the revelation that the Others are basically a WMD that's spiraled out of control. Does this tell us anything about their motivation? Do they have any agency beyond a desire to fight against men / the Children? Perhaps it's a sign of things to come re: dragons being quite similar, that is: thought of my most people to just be weapons? As I said, I need to think more about it.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 3:08 am
by lowlight79
Jack Bender did all the great LOST episodes. His GOT debut was up there boy
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 3:52 am
by Monkey_Driven
lowlight79 wrote:Jack Bender did all the great LOST episodes. His GOT debut was up there boy
I noticed he was directing this one and got excited.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 4:01 am
by epilogue
Monkey_Driven wrote:lowlight79 wrote:Jack Bender did all the great LOST episodes. His GOT debut was up there boy
I noticed he was directing this one and got excited.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 4:01 am
by Monkey_Driven
Simple Torture wrote:I've gotta think more about this, but I think we've gotta focus a bit more on the revelation that the Others are basically a WMD that's spiraled out of control. Does this tell us anything about their motivation? Do they have any agency beyond a desire to fight against men / the Children? Perhaps it's a sign of things to come re: dragons being quite similar, that is: thought of my most people to just be weapons? As I said, I need to think more about it.
Great point.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 4:07 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 4:08 am
by Zantac Junkie
Simple Torture wrote:I've gotta think more about this, but I think we've gotta focus a bit more on the revelation that the Others are basically a WMD that's spiraled out of control. Does this tell us anything about their motivation? Do they have any agency beyond a desire to fight against men / the Children? Perhaps it's a sign of things to come re: dragons being quite similar, that is: thought of my most people to just be weapons? As I said, I need to think more about it.
The stone cairns in the grove where the children created the first other are arrayed in the same spiral pattern that the others made out of horse heads at the fist of the first men. I'm not sure what that's supposed to signify, but it's more than happenstance.
Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 4:09 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.