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Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 9:52 pm
by Lament
Does anyone else wish after the call and response vocals at the end they'd go back into the riff from the very beginning of the song, or is it just me?

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 9:55 pm
by dimejinky99
Lament wrote:Does anyone else wish after the call and response vocals at the end they'd go back into the riff from the very beginning of the song, or is it just me?
I was just saying the same thing on the previous page but the two time signatures jar against each other too much.

He could have sang it in that intro timing I think. Would have left more room for some exploration of melody like we see in the two choruses.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 9:57 pm
by harmless
dimejinky99 wrote:
Lament wrote:Does anyone else wish after the call and response vocals at the end they'd go back into the riff from the very beginning of the song, or is it just me?
I was just saying the same thing on the previous page but the two time signatures jar against each other too much.

He could have sang it in that intro timing I think. Would have left more room for some exploration of melody like we see in the two choruses.
I don't think they jar too much. Basically the intro is just a half-time version of most of the song, i.e. the song is in 2/4 and the intro is in 4/4. They're essentially the same 'tempo' so they could change from one to the other in exactly the same way if they found a clever enough transition.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:04 pm
by Tass Man
stip wrote:
Tass Man wrote:Initially I thought I really liked it, but it may have just been the "newness" because I haven't really gone out of my way to listen to it since it came out. Aside from the 5-10 times I heard it that first weekend, I don't think I've listened since.. I actually forget how a lot of it goes.
I've had the opposite feeling. I liked it, but didn't love it at first, when I played it 50 times or whatever over two days. Since then I probably put it one once or twice a day, and as the song has become more and more familiar and comfortable I find I like it more. It's not a 5 star song, but I am pretty confident it is 4.
See if I were to rank this song, I'd probably rank it the same as you, but I just don't have a desire to go and listen to it, and I'm not sure why. I'm thinking maybe its because I want the album. Most of my music listening is full albums so that's my only guess.

Even when I think about Ole, I was one of the few that liked that song, but again I don't go seek it out to listen to it and its probably because it's a stand alone track that's not associated with an album.

The thing I'm trying to figure out is if I was like this with previous albums/singles. I don't really remember, but I know with WWS and The Fixer, as soon as I got the albums, I rarely listened to those songs and I assume that's because I overplayed those songs during the lead up to the album. So maybe I'm subconsciously not trying to burn MYM out by the time the album comes out so I can still enjoy it.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:04 pm
by Lament
dimejinky99 wrote:
Lament wrote:Does anyone else wish after the call and response vocals at the end they'd go back into the riff from the very beginning of the song, or is it just me?
I was just saying the same thing on the previous page but the two time signatures jar against each other too much.

He could have sang it in that intro timing I think. Would have left more room for some exploration of melody like we see in the two choruses.
I must have missed that post. But yeah, I feel like if they found a way to go from the call and response (and I have no doubt if Matt really wanted to he could), it would've made for a much more impactful ending to the song.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:42 pm
by stip
maybe It's a really cool part, but closing on the extended hell scream works well as a full stop

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:58 pm
by VinylGuy
Ed vocals are great on this one. They grow in every new listen.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 11:13 pm
by harmless
I'm still feeling pretty good about this song but the production could go either way.

The best chance we have of this album being produced with any depth is probably the ambient piece in the tour video. That kind of sound was not present on Backspacer.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 11:23 pm
by Monkey_Driven
VinylGuy wrote:Ed vocals are great on this one. They grow in every new listen.
Agree. I like this song a lot more than I did on the initial listen.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 12:43 am
by Thejambi
harmless wrote:I'm still feeling pretty good about this song but the production could go either way.

The best chance we have of this album being produced with any depth is probably the ambient piece in the tour video. That kind of sound was not present on Backspacer.
I think The title track has potential for a full sound. I expect it to be slower and the guitar work is pretty layered.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 1:28 am
by VinylGuy
Monkey_Driven wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Ed vocals are great on this one. They grow in every new listen.
Agree. I like this song a lot more than I did on the initial listen.
They are agressive enough and he sounds very very good.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 1:28 am
by Jorge
Ed's vocals are my favorite thing about this song.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 1:29 am
by benton netty
Lament wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Lament wrote:Does anyone else wish after the call and response vocals at the end they'd go back into the riff from the very beginning of the song, or is it just me?
I was just saying the same thing on the previous page but the two time signatures jar against each other too much.

He could have sang it in that intro timing I think. Would have left more room for some exploration of melody like we see in the two choruses.
I must have missed that post. But yeah, I feel like if they found a way to go from the call and response (and I have no doubt if Matt really wanted to he could), it would've made for a much more impactful ending to the song.
I initially felt like the intro riff should pop in after the solo, and before the last chorus. Maybe after the dead stop?

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 4:42 am
by VinylGuy
Im not that crazy about the stop, i think its the weakest moment of the song. Im still loving the intro and Mike solo.
The live renditions has been pretty cool too.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 1:06 pm
by dimejinky99
Dublins alternative station have been playing the shit out of this. And I like it more each time I hear it.

Eds sounding really great. Singing from Right down in his chest.
Good times.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 1:24 pm
by EJ
Ed really shines on this song - some well executed gut-punch moments.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 1:27 pm
by McParadigm
After fourteen days at radio...

Week 1: 1,641 plays, estimated audience size of 8.6
Week 2: 2,550 plays, estimated audience size of 8.62

It's interesting that, while it has increased its number of plays at alternative radio (typically the format Pearl Jam most dominates), its audience size shrank quite a bit there. This means that some of the format's larger stations gave it a little bit of a shot last week, then dropped it from their playlist. The may come back to it if it can break into the top ten there (it's at #12 right now, up from #16 after the first seven days).

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 1:46 pm
by southp
EJ wrote:Ed really shines on this song - some well executed gut-punch moments.
The best part about his delivery is that little edge of insanity that he's channeling from the Ed of yesteryear.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 1:49 pm
by stip
McParadigm wrote:After fourteen days at radio...

Week 1: 1,641 plays, estimated audience size of 8.6
Week 2: 2,550 plays, estimated audience size of 8.62

It's interesting that, while it has increased its number of plays at alternative radio (typically the format Pearl Jam most dominates), its audience size shrank quite a bit there. This means that some of the format's larger stations gave it a little bit of a shot last week, then dropped it from their playlist. The may come back to it if it can break into the top ten there (it's at #12 right now, up from #16 after the first seven days).
what does estimated audience size mean?

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 1:51 pm
by Monkey_Driven
I have yet to hear this on any of the local stations. They played the shit out of the Fixer when it was released.