Red Mosquito

dimejinky99 wrote:Just got out of this in my fifth spin. But my pals first.

He was wrapped up in it. So excited and he’s only casual as fans go.
He laughed his ass off too. He got it.
And it’s his birthday.
And the theatre was packed.

He used to post here. He says hello.

Paddy?!?!

Jaysis lads its just a movie

This was a weird movie. Why did it have such a seemingly labored visual style that didn't match or enhance any of the narrative or thematic content? It almost struck me as McCabe & Mrs. Miller-esque: gray skies, white mountains, muddy browns, with a murky, almost faded look. Very weird, because the movie is not at all dark in tone or ambiguous in morality. Such an odd mix of elements.

This whole movie was pretty egregiously driven by fan service. Look, it's his blaster! Look, he's meeting Chewie! Look, it's the Falcon! Look, he's meeting Lando! Look, it's the Kessel run! Look, he's winning the Falcon fair and square! Look, we're referencing Bossk! Ugh. It's so grating and dumb. This barely even feels like a movie; it's just a stream of winks and jokes. The Marvelization of Star Wars is so depressing.

It also felt much faster and louder than any other SW movie. It never seems to stop moving, and the action is chaotic and relentless. It's exhausting. And it's not at all absorbing or atmospheric or interesting. The action is boooorrrrriiinnnnggggg. There is no passion for craftsmanship in this movie; that is DEATH in a blockbuster like this.

Emilia Clarke and Donald Glover were both laughable. Alden Ehrenreich's high-pitched voice was very distracting considering he's supposed to be a young Harrison Ford. Darth Maul was totally fucking ruined and I don't want to see what they were planning on doing with him in future movies (The LAST THING I want from Maul is for him to be fucking chatty. Ugh. The whole point was that he was a cool image whose mystery was enhanced by his icy silence. Now he just seems like a lame, milquetoast villain.). Igniting his lightsaber elicited a laugh and eye-roll from me. Soooooo dumbbbbb. Lando fucking SJWbot was also soooo dummmbbbb.

This movie was bad.

NEVER ugh Bossk.

I'll agree with you on most of this. This movie wasn't very good.

Regarding Maul, though, in the Clone Wars and Rebels, he was very talkative. So they could have been going off of that. With that being said, that all fits into the fan service you are talking about

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'll agree with you on most of this. This movie wasn't very good.

Regarding Maul, though, in the Clone Wars and Rebels, he was very talkative. So they could have been going off of that. With that being said, that all fits into the fan service you are talking about

This makes me have even less interest in those shows. Talk about a great way to mangle a cool character.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:This was a weird movie. Why did it have such a seemingly labored visual style that didn't match or enhance any of the narrative or thematic content? It almost struck me as McCabe & Mrs. Miller-esque: gray skies, white mountains, muddy browns, with a murky, almost faded look. Very weird, because the movie is not at all dark in tone or ambiguous in morality. Such an odd mix of elements.

This whole movie was pretty egregiously driven by fan service. Look, it's his blaster! Look, he's meeting Chewie! Look, it's the Falcon! Look, he's meeting Lando! Look, it's the Kessel run! Look, he's winning the Falcon fair and square! Look, we're referencing Bossk! Ugh. It's so grating and dumb. This barely even feels like a movie; it's just a stream of winks and jokes. The Marvelization of Star Wars is so depressing.

It also felt much faster and louder than any other SW movie. It never seems to stop moving, and the action is chaotic and relentless. It's exhausting. And it's not at all absorbing or atmospheric or interesting. The action is boooorrrrriiinnnnggggg. There is no passion for craftsmanship in this movie; that is DEATH in a blockbuster like this.

Emilia Clarke and Donald Glover were both laughable. Alden Ehrenreich's high-pitched voice was very distracting considering he's supposed to be a young Harrison Ford. Darth Maul was totally fucking ruined and I don't want to see what they were planning on doing with him in future movies (The LAST THING I want from Maul is for him to be fucking chatty. Ugh. The whole point was that he was a cool image whose mystery was enhanced by his icy silence. Now he just seems like a lame, milquetoast villain.). Igniting his lightsaber elicited a laugh and eye-roll from me. Soooooo dumbbbbb. Lando fucking SJWbot was also soooo dummmbbbb.

This movie was bad.

He’s playing a younger Han Solo. Not a young Harrison Ford.

And you don’t want Maul to be chatty? Clearly you’ve never seen Rebels Or Clone wars.
He never shuts the fuck up. Loves the sound of his own voice.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:This was a weird movie. Why did it have such a seemingly labored visual style that didn't match or enhance any of the narrative or thematic content? It almost struck me as McCabe & Mrs. Miller-esque: gray skies, white mountains, muddy browns, with a murky, almost faded look. Very weird, because the movie is not at all dark in tone or ambiguous in morality. Such an odd mix of elements.

This whole movie was pretty egregiously driven by fan service. Look, it's his blaster! Look, he's meeting Chewie! Look, it's the Falcon! Look, he's meeting Lando! Look, it's the Kessel run! Look, he's winning the Falcon fair and square! Look, we're referencing Bossk! Ugh. It's so grating and dumb. This barely even feels like a movie; it's just a stream of winks and jokes. The Marvelization of Star Wars is so depressing.

It also felt much faster and louder than any other SW movie. It never seems to stop moving, and the action is chaotic and relentless. It's exhausting. And it's not at all absorbing or atmospheric or interesting. The action is boooorrrrriiinnnnggggg. There is no passion for craftsmanship in this movie; that is DEATH in a blockbuster like this.

Emilia Clarke and Donald Glover were both laughable. Alden Ehrenreich's high-pitched voice was very distracting considering he's supposed to be a young Harrison Ford. Darth Maul was totally fucking ruined and I don't want to see what they were planning on doing with him in future movies (The LAST THING I want from Maul is for him to be fucking chatty. Ugh. The whole point was that he was a cool image whose mystery was enhanced by his icy silence. Now he just seems like a lame, milquetoast villain.). Igniting his lightsaber elicited a laugh and eye-roll from me. Soooooo dumbbbbb. Lando fucking SJWbot was also soooo dummmbbbb.

This movie was bad.

Usually when people say shit like this they mean it in a backhanded or disingenuous way but I've honestly never agreed with an LV post more. What a mess this movie is.

If Maul is chatty now. That just means they got him wrong in the animated shows as well.

theplatypus wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:This was a weird movie. Why did it have such a seemingly labored visual style that didn't match or enhance any of the narrative or thematic content? It almost struck me as McCabe & Mrs. Miller-esque: gray skies, white mountains, muddy browns, with a murky, almost faded look. Very weird, because the movie is not at all dark in tone or ambiguous in morality. Such an odd mix of elements.

This whole movie was pretty egregiously driven by fan service. Look, it's his blaster! Look, he's meeting Chewie! Look, it's the Falcon! Look, he's meeting Lando! Look, it's the Kessel run! Look, he's winning the Falcon fair and square! Look, we're referencing Bossk! Ugh. It's so grating and dumb. This barely even feels like a movie; it's just a stream of winks and jokes. The Marvelization of Star Wars is so depressing.

It also felt much faster and louder than any other SW movie. It never seems to stop moving, and the action is chaotic and relentless. It's exhausting. And it's not at all absorbing or atmospheric or interesting. The action is boooorrrrriiinnnnggggg. There is no passion for craftsmanship in this movie; that is DEATH in a blockbuster like this.

Emilia Clarke and Donald Glover were both laughable. Alden Ehrenreich's high-pitched voice was very distracting considering he's supposed to be a young Harrison Ford. Darth Maul was totally fucking ruined and I don't want to see what they were planning on doing with him in future movies (The LAST THING I want from Maul is for him to be fucking chatty. Ugh. The whole point was that he was a cool image whose mystery was enhanced by his icy silence. Now he just seems like a lame, milquetoast villain.). Igniting his lightsaber elicited a laugh and eye-roll from me. Soooooo dumbbbbb. Lando fucking SJWbot was also soooo dummmbbbb.

This movie was bad.

Usually when people say shit like this they mean it in a backhanded or disingenuous way but I've honestly never agreed with an LV post more. What a mess this movie is.

Endorsed.

He’s playing a younger Han Solo. Not a young Harrison Ford.

What could this possibly mean

It's difficult for me to agree or even understand how the creator of a character can later get that character wrong.

That aside, I do understand what you guys are saying about Maul. However, it makes all the sense in the world in The Clone Wars. The character evolves. His anger and hatred and insanity keep him alive. There are reasons why he starts talking and talking to himself. He develops multiple personalities. He also forms a total hatred against the Sith and Sidious and part of that his how he was used as a weapon. His intelligence wasn't important to Sidious. He was forced to keep quiet.

It all makes a lot of sense and unfolds in a logical way. It's a natural evolution of the character. It may sound hokey even reading about it, but it really works in the course of the show.

Obviously, none of that means it's automatically good or that you guys would like it even if you did watch it. But it isn't something that's just out of nowhere or a complete misunderstanding of the character. FWIW.

durdencommatyler wrote:But it isn't something that's just out of nowhere

If you watched a bunch of cartoon episodes, sure

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:But it isn't something that's just out of nowhere

If you watched a bunch of cartoon episodes, sure

That's kinda condescending, no? Just because you don't watch "a bunch of cartoons" doesn't mean they aren't important, valuable, and artistic. It's all part of the universe. They want to bring more fans, who like you, are dismissive, of the animated series into those stories. It's a good tie-in. If you don't bite, big effing deal. But some people will and they're experience will be richer for it.

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:But it isn't something that's just out of nowhere

If you watched a bunch of cartoon episodes, sure

That's kinda condescending, no? Just because you don't watch "a bunch of cartoons" doesn't mean they aren't important, valuable, and artistic. It's all part of the universe. They want to bring more fans, who like you, are dismissive, of the animated series into those stories. It's a good tie-in. If you don't bite, big effing deal. But some people will and they're experience will be richer for it.

just saying it's pretty damn out of nowhere if you only watch the movies and not a bunch of childrens cartoons

Do I have to play the video games too? Because I am not cool with those loot boxes.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:This was a weird movie. Why did it have such a seemingly labored visual style that didn't match or enhance any of the narrative or thematic content? It almost struck me as McCabe & Mrs. Miller-esque: gray skies, white mountains, muddy browns, with a murky, almost faded look. Very weird, because the movie is not at all dark in tone or ambiguous in morality. Such an odd mix of elements.

I'm sure there is a very interesting story behind the scenes that we'll never hear that explains why.

You don't have to do anything Burt.

Its weird that I can agree with a majority of LV's points but also admit I still had fun watching it *shrugs*

Its not a fanboy thing either. I would not sit here and say its a GREAT or even a good movie but gosh darnit i had a lot of fun watching it.

Someone told me Maul's appearance in this complicates things for him in the timeline in relation to the animated shows, because it leaves a very small window of time to get him where he needs to be in his next canonical appearance