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Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 12:50 pm
by tragabigzanda
stip wrote:mike’s extended improvisational solos are a really important ingredient in their live shows and he is right that overthinking some of the key lightning bolt solos probably hurt them a bit (think yellow moon or sirens)z

i love everything ive heard about this album
Including Wotman’s prior work?

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 1:19 pm
by lecherouslittlestump
What I hope they mean by 'heavy':

Garden
Quick Escape
Rival
Dissident
Hail Hail

What I'm afraid of when they say 'heavy'

Never Destination
Supersonic
Mind Your Manners
Spin The Black Circle

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 1:20 pm
by Bammer
lecherouslittlestump wrote:What I hope they mean by 'heavy':

Garden
Quick Escape
Rival
Dissident
Hail Hail

What I'm afraid of when they say 'heavy'

Never Destination
Supersonic
Mind Your Manners
Spin The Black Circle
Who hacked lech’s account?

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 1:24 pm
by stip
tragabigzanda wrote:
stip wrote:mike’s extended improvisational solos are a really important ingredient in their live shows and he is right that overthinking some of the key lightning bolt solos probably hurt them a bit (think yellow moon or sirens)z

i love everything ive heard about this album
Including Wotman’s prior work?
i only know earthlings

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 1:29 pm
by stip
writing together, improvosational solos, heavy. this, in the abstract, is what i want - produced by someone who it seems is drawn to what i love about the band and can bring the best out of eddie

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 1:40 pm
by VinylGuy
I do love how they seemed to approach the sessions for this one, spent time together in studio with a guy who seemed to pushed them.
But well see, Mike is not the best speaker in terms of whats coming next. Its is kinda cool he mentions that Matt seems to be doing some SG oriented stuff here. Thats a cool mention.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 1:42 pm
by lecherouslittlestump
stip wrote:writing together, improvosational solos, heavy. this, in the abstract, is what i want - produced by someone who it seems is drawn to what i love about the band and can bring the best out of eddie
I think by 'heavy' they're talking in the literal sense, i.e. the weight of the CD and vinyl. I don't interpretate Mike's comments as talking about the actual music.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 1:43 pm
by lecherouslittlestump
VinylGuy wrote:I do love how they seemed to approach the sessions for this one, spent time together in studio with a guy who seemed to pushed them.
But well see, Mike is not the best speaker in terms of whats coming next. Its is kinda cool he mentions that Matt seems to be doing some SG oriented stuff here. Thats a cool mention.
Take The Long Way is one of their best rockers in recent years and to my ears sounds very Soundgardeny. More of that please.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 1:44 pm
by tragabigzanda
stip wrote:writing together, improvosational solos, heavy. this, in the abstract, is what i want - produced by someone who it seems is drawn to what i love about the band and can bring the best out of eddie
Emphasis on abstract. This feels like they’ve completely put themselves in the hands of a producer who I’m skeptical is up to the task.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 1:47 pm
by Bammer
tragabigzanda wrote:
stip wrote:writing together, improvosational solos, heavy. this, in the abstract, is what i want - produced by someone who it seems is drawn to what i love about the band and can bring the best out of eddie
Emphasis on abstract. This feels like they’ve completely put themselves in the hands of a producer who I’m skeptical is up to the task.
Tonkotsu

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 2:42 pm
by Strat
This is gonna be great

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 2:50 pm
by Monkey_Driven
I worry about Ed on this.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 3:16 pm
by Leatherhead
Monkey_Driven wrote:I worry about Ed on this.
Probably my biggest worry is how he's gonna sound. There's parts in LB where he sounds pretty awful.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 3:33 pm
by guitar_davey
Leatherhead wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:I worry about Ed on this.
Probably my biggest worry is how he's gonna sound. There's parts in LB where he sounds pretty awful.
There are a lot of parts on Gigaton where he sounds fantastic.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 3:39 pm
by Leatherhead
guitar_davey wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:I worry about Ed on this.
Probably my biggest worry is how he's gonna sound. There's parts in LB where he sounds pretty awful.
There are a lot of parts on Gigaton where he sounds fantastic.
Indeed.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 3:42 pm
by liebzz
Leatherhead wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:I worry about Ed on this.
Probably my biggest worry is how he's gonna sound. There's parts in LB where he sounds pretty awful.
There are a lot of parts on Gigaton where he sounds fantastic.
Indeed.
Given what Watt did for Mick Jagger, no reason to worry about Eddie Vedder. Jeff/Matt may be of concern though, not to mention guest appearances that they don’t need.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 3:46 pm
by guitar_davey
liebzz wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:I worry about Ed on this.
Probably my biggest worry is how he's gonna sound. There's parts in LB where he sounds pretty awful.
There are a lot of parts on Gigaton where he sounds fantastic.
Indeed.
Given what Watt did for Mick Jagger, no reason to worry about Eddie Vedder. Jeff/Matt may be of concern though, not to mention guest appearances that they don’t need.
Jeff is probably the least concerning member of PJ, if you're going to be concerned about any of them.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 3:57 pm
by dprival78
watt is to pj as jj abrams is to star wars?

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 4:00 pm
by guitar_davey
dprival78 wrote:watt is to pj as jj abrams is to star wars?
Who's the Kathleen Kennedy?

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 4:04 pm
by Chris_H_2
stip wrote:mike’s extended improvisational solos are a really important ingredient in their live shows and he is right that overthinking some of the key lightning bolt solos probably hurt them a bit (think yellow moon or sirens)z
paradoxically, i think they're also the things that hold the studio albums back and relegate the songs to predictable, paint-by-numbers where the band falls into a comfort zone without any degree of creativity or going out on a limb with trying new things.