Red Mosquito

WtOB? wrote:ok, so..
pendulum = undone II
getaway = of the girl II
my father's son = alive II
let the records play = spin the black circle II
lightning bolt = unthought known II
swallowed whole = unthought known III
sleeping by myself = sleeping by myself II
future days = just breathe II

Haha everything

The music of Inside Job isn't bad.

And I mean, really, who cares about lyrics? They're just words.

verb_to_trust wrote:

stip wrote:i have no thoughts whatsoever about what any of these songs are going to sound like other than the three we've heard. One of these songs damn well better feature that awesome music from the tour vid, though

I don't get what why everyone is splooshing over that. Its just ambient noise. It will be a nice lead in to one of these tracks I'm thinking, maybe Sirens. If it is included, it will be a good sign for this album because its nowhere near cheesy sounding enough to fit on backspacer and sounded like it had too much depth for Avocado.

yeah, i'm thinking it was just something they noodled with in the studio and used it for a tour vid; like they always do with that kinda stuff. they never put it on the records. unfortunately.

WtOB? wrote:

harmless wrote:Ed has always self-referenced. I'm OK with it. I'd rather that than him trying to write something with a new subject. Johnny Guitar is the furthest he got.

and i don't want him to go there again. jg was awful. much worse than inside job.

Ed is too boring to be self referencing. Make some interesting shit up, I say.

Birds in Hell wrote:The music of Inside Job isn't bad.

And I mean, really, who cares about lyrics? They're just words.

hahaha too obvious.

verb_to_trust wrote:

stip wrote:i have no thoughts whatsoever about what any of these songs are going to sound like other than the three we've heard. One of these songs damn well better feature that awesome music from the tour vid, though

I don't get what why everyone is splooshing over that. Its just ambient noise. It will be a nice lead in to one of these tracks I'm thinking, maybe Sirens. If it is included, it will be a good sign for this album because its nowhere near cheesy sounding enough to fit on backspacer and sounded like it had too much depth for Avocado.

I don't get what you're not getting. You've just described why I'm looking forward to hearing what it is. Because it sounds nothing like anything on Backspacer and could tell us something about the tone of this album being different.

WtOB? wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

stip wrote:i have no thoughts whatsoever about what any of these songs are going to sound like other than the three we've heard. One of these songs damn well better feature that awesome music from the tour vid, though

I don't get what why everyone is splooshing over that. Its just ambient noise. It will be a nice lead in to one of these tracks I'm thinking, maybe Sirens. If it is included, it will be a good sign for this album because its nowhere near cheesy sounding enough to fit on backspacer and sounded like it had too much depth for Avocado.

yeah, i'm thinking it was just something they noodled with in the studio and used it for a tour vid; like they always do with that kinda stuff. they never put it on the records. unfortunately.

But what if. WHAT IF? We're in that sweetspot before we start hearing snippets and descriptions, where anything is possible.

harmless wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

stip wrote:i have no thoughts whatsoever about what any of these songs are going to sound like other than the three we've heard. One of these songs damn well better feature that awesome music from the tour vid, though

I don't get what why everyone is splooshing over that. Its just ambient noise. It will be a nice lead in to one of these tracks I'm thinking, maybe Sirens. If it is included, it will be a good sign for this album because its nowhere near cheesy sounding enough to fit on backspacer and sounded like it had too much depth for Avocado.

I don't get what you're not getting. You've just described why I'm looking forward to hearing what it is. Because it sounds nothing like anything on Backspacer and could tell us something about the tone of this album being different.

Isn't that what I just said? Regardless, it just sounds like a noise track that at best will set up a song and may not be included at all.

harmless wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

stip wrote:i have no thoughts whatsoever about what any of these songs are going to sound like other than the three we've heard. One of these songs damn well better feature that awesome music from the tour vid, though

I don't get what why everyone is splooshing over that. Its just ambient noise. It will be a nice lead in to one of these tracks I'm thinking, maybe Sirens. If it is included, it will be a good sign for this album because its nowhere near cheesy sounding enough to fit on backspacer and sounded like it had too much depth for Avocado.

I don't get what you're not getting. You've just described why I'm looking forward to hearing what it is. Because it sounds nothing like anything on Backspacer and could tell us something about the tone of this album being different.

Or it's just another Thunderclap/Harmony/Foldback type outtake? Either way I'd like to hear it. Maybe it's a secret track or intro track ala Master/Slave.

verb_to_trust wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

harmless wrote:Ed has always self-referenced. I'm OK with it. I'd rather that than him trying to write something with a new subject. Johnny Guitar is the furthest he got.

and i don't want him to go there again. jg was awful. much worse than inside job.

Ed is too boring to be self referencing. Make some interesting shit up, I say.

He's "too boring" and yet you want him to make "interesting shit" up? Good luck with that.

If Ed self-references, he can only be as boring as the original songs imo. Anything that self-references my favourite PJ songs is at least worth giving a go. I also think Johnny Guitar was the best song on Backspacer, but it was most definitely a witty pop song and I wouldn't want it to represent Pearl Jam.

LetMeSleep wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:The music of Inside Job isn't bad.

And I mean, really, who cares about lyrics? They're just words.

hahaha too obvious.

It sounds flippant but I do genuinely mean it.

Lyrics rank somewhere below production choices, snare drum sounds and guitar tone in the things I care about in a song. Unless they're unavoidably terrible to the point where I can't help but notice them (which, admittedly, Inside Job is getting pretty close to) I really don't care that much. They're a pretty minor part of a song to me.

LetMeSleep wrote:

harmless wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

stip wrote:i have no thoughts whatsoever about what any of these songs are going to sound like other than the three we've heard. One of these songs damn well better feature that awesome music from the tour vid, though

I don't get what why everyone is splooshing over that. Its just ambient noise. It will be a nice lead in to one of these tracks I'm thinking, maybe Sirens. If it is included, it will be a good sign for this album because its nowhere near cheesy sounding enough to fit on backspacer and sounded like it had too much depth for Avocado.

I don't get what you're not getting. You've just described why I'm looking forward to hearing what it is. Because it sounds nothing like anything on Backspacer and could tell us something about the tone of this album being different.

Or it's just another Thunderclap/Harmony/Foldback type outtake? Either way I'd like to hear it. Maybe it's a secret track or intro track ala Master/Slave.

Wasn't there a secret 'noise' track on S/T? I remember liking it. Maybe it'll be something like that.

harmless wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

harmless wrote:Ed has always self-referenced. I'm OK with it. I'd rather that than him trying to write something with a new subject. Johnny Guitar is the furthest he got.

and i don't want him to go there again. jg was awful. much worse than inside job.

Ed is too boring to be self referencing. Make some interesting shit up, I say.

He's "too boring" and yet you want him to make "interesting shit" up? Good luck with that.

If Ed self-references, he can only be as boring as the original songs imo. Anything that self-references my favourite PJ songs is at least worth giving a go. I also think Johnny Guitar was the best song on Backspacer, but it was most definitely a witty pop song and I wouldn't want it to represent Pearl Jam.

I'm not interested in a rich 50 year old family man's self references. I think the better choice would be to dream up some interesting things to say rather than Future Days type subject matter. Hopefully we get more of that...

stupidmop wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

stip wrote:i have no thoughts whatsoever about what any of these songs are going to sound like other than the three we've heard. One of these songs damn well better feature that awesome music from the tour vid, though

I don't get what why everyone is splooshing over that. Its just ambient noise. It will be a nice lead in to one of these tracks I'm thinking, maybe Sirens. If it is included, it will be a good sign for this album because its nowhere near cheesy sounding enough to fit on backspacer and sounded like it had too much depth for Avocado.

yeah, i'm thinking it was just something they noodled with in the studio and used it for a tour vid; like they always do with that kinda stuff. they never put it on the records. unfortunately.

But what if. WHAT IF? We're in that sweetspot before we start hearing snippets and descriptions, where anything is possible.

you need to be more jaded.

Birds in Hell wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:The music of Inside Job isn't bad.

And I mean, really, who cares about lyrics? They're just words.

hahaha too obvious.

It sounds flippant but I do genuinely mean it.

Lyrics rank somewhere below production choices, snare drum sounds and guitar tone in the things I care about in a song. Unless they're unavoidably terrible to the point where I can't help but notice them (which, admittedly, Inside Job is getting pretty close to) I really don't care that much. They're a pretty minor part of a song to me.

But don't you sometimes think with better lyrics Supersonic would have been pretty good?

Birds in Hell wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:The music of Inside Job isn't bad.

And I mean, really, who cares about lyrics? They're just words.

hahaha too obvious.

It sounds flippant but I do genuinely mean it.

Lyrics rank somewhere below production choices, snare drum sounds and guitar tone in the things I care about in a song. Unless they're unavoidably terrible to the point where I can't help but notice them (which, admittedly, Inside Job is getting pretty close to) I really don't care that much. They're a pretty minor part of a song to me.

you can hide some pretty bad lyrics under a good vocal melody. lyrics are something i usually pick up on after repeat listens and are one of the things that help the song either be a grower or a leaver.

Birds in Hell wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:The music of Inside Job isn't bad.

And I mean, really, who cares about lyrics? They're just words.

hahaha too obvious.

It sounds flippant but I do genuinely mean it.

Lyrics rank somewhere below production choices, snare drum sounds and guitar tone in the things I care about in a song. Unless they're unavoidably terrible to the point where I can't help but notice them (which, admittedly, Inside Job is getting pretty close to) I really don't care that much. They're a pretty minor part of a song to me.

Lyrics are pretty important to me. Having said that, as you say, as long as they're not glaringly awful I can forgive them because let's face it, this is rock music not poetry. There are really only very few PJ songs I hate because of their lyrics, but I hate them so much they're serious blights on their respective albums: Big Wave, Inside Job, Supersonic.

So no cold confession or let it ride then?

lyrics are also more important in some bands than others. in pearl jam, they're definitely an important factor.

Birds in Hell wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:The music of Inside Job isn't bad.

And I mean, really, who cares about lyrics? They're just words.

hahaha too obvious.

It sounds flippant but I do genuinely mean it.

Lyrics rank somewhere below production choices, snare drum sounds and guitar tone in the things I care about in a song. Unless they're unavoidably terrible to the point where I can't help but notice them (which, admittedly, Inside Job is getting pretty close to) I really don't care that much. They're a pretty minor part of a song to me.

My apologies, it looked like Stip baiting.

PJs bad lyrics usually don't worry me too much.