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Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 1:37 am
by guitar_davey
Ms Harmless wrote:RoJ is not my favourite rocker but it still slaps

I can't believe how many spritzy punkers are successful on this thing
Funny you mentioned Save You a few posts earlier.

I remember listening to Riot Act years ago with a close friend and fellow PJ fan and he remarked on that song and how it was an example of Eddie really feeling it, exemplified by that little off the cuff yelp he does. I feel the same loose energy hearing the count in at the beginning of RoJ. It gives me the same jolt. Similar idea with the "like this... 1,2,3,4" bit in Try.

Ed's feeling it here and not overthinking it.

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 1:40 am
by Ms Harmless
Birds in Hell wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:actually the best part is the boogie-woogie "Alive" jam, what a great callback
I don't believe for a moment there's any intentional callback to Alive in that piano outro.

It's just Elton mashing some bluesy noodles.
don't care really, it happened anyway

it's the chords in that section that sound like Alive, not the noodling; but I'm sure that's to do with the fact that Alive was a thinly veiled blues song anyway; give it some shuffle and you get this

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 1:42 am
by Ms Harmless
guitar_davey wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:RoJ is not my favourite rocker but it still slaps

I can't believe how many spritzy punkers are successful on this thing
Funny you mentioned Save You a few posts earlier.

I remember listening to Riot Act years ago with a close friend and fellow PJ fan and he remarked on that song and how it was an example of Eddie really feeling it, exemplified by that little off the cuff yelp he does. I feel the same loose energy hearing the count in at the beginning of RoJ. It gives me the same jolt. Similar idea with the "like this... 1,2,3,4" bit in Try.

Ed's feeling it here and not overthinking it.
yes :)

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 1:50 am
by Ms Harmless
you know what else I think is remarkable about Invincible? they kept it SLOW and GROOVY and SPACIOUS when it could very easily have been a speedy Lightning Bolt

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 1:57 am
by Jorge
Does Palladino play on the album? Or only live

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 1:57 am
by guitar_davey
Ms Harmless wrote:you know what else I think is remarkable about Invincible? they kept it SLOW and GROOVY and SPACIOUS when it could very easily have been a speedy Lightning Bolt
AND seemingly managed to maintain this restraint when playing it live.

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 1:58 am
by guitar_davey
Jorge wrote:Does Palladino play on the album? Or only live
Watt and Klinghoffer playing bass I believe.

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 1:58 am
by Ms Harmless
guitar_davey wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:you know what else I think is remarkable about Invincible? they kept it SLOW and GROOVY and SPACIOUS when it could very easily have been a speedy Lightning Bolt
AND seemingly managed to maintain this restraint when playing it live.
thank you Chad!

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 2:00 am
by Ms Harmless
it would be great if Ed has learned that not everything needs to be fast to rock as a result of this

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 2:05 am
by washing machine
The Dark is holding strong as my favorite on this thing. The first verse could be a hushed late night conversation between someone and their hurting partner. The second verse, much more abstract, illuminates the revelation of that pain. This would be such a crushing song if delivered any other way, but somehow the juxtopositon of bright chords and quick tempo make everything heavy in the song feel so much lighter. It's a multitude of emotions that a lot of us can connect with, no doubt, and therein lies the appeal of this whole dang thing.

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 2:07 am
by Ms Harmless
The Dark is fantastic

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 2:11 am
by Birds in Hell
guitar_davey wrote:
Jorge wrote:Does Palladino play on the album? Or only live
Watt and Klinghoffer playing bass I believe.
I thought Chris Chaney (Jane's Addiction) is playing bass on the tour.

Palladino played on the album and on those initial festival shows Ed played a few months ago.

EDIT: I'm wrong, Pino didn't play on the record.

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 4:27 am
by McParadigm
Ms Harmless wrote:The Dark is fantastic
I do love the bridge.

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 4:35 am
by Tj
washing machine wrote:The Dark is holding strong as my favorite on this thing. The first verse could be a hushed late night conversation between someone and their hurting partner. The second verse, much more abstract, illuminates the revelation of that pain. This would be such a crushing song if delivered any other way, but somehow the juxtopositon of bright chords and quick tempo make everything heavy in the song feel so much lighter. It's a multitude of emotions that a lot of us can connect with, no doubt, and therein lies the appeal of this whole dang thing.
The Dark first verse is a dead person speaking to living one the second verse is a living person speaking to a dead person.

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 5:14 am
by Tj
What is the Power of Right about

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 5:20 am
by Ms Harmless
Tj wrote:What is the Power of Right about
it sounds like a codependent relationship

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 5:25 am
by Ms Harmless
I feel like "itchy trigger finger" is describing his impulse to react or leave, but neither person feels able to

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 6:38 am
by Tj
Interesting take. That seems right. Man giving into impulses. The woman is always right concept. Feels like a extension of some of Dances themes.

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 7:04 am
by Ms Harmless
yeah I think so

Re: Eddie Vedder - Earthling

Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 7:07 am
by Ms Harmless
what I like is that you're never sure who is abusing who, so it never resorts to easy sexism like the "under the thumb" trope

that itchy trigger finger is a violent image, so I don't think he's as innocent as it sounds