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verb_to_trust wrote:

harmless wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

harmless wrote:Ed has always self-referenced. I'm OK with it. I'd rather that than him trying to write something with a new subject. Johnny Guitar is the furthest he got.

and i don't want him to go there again. jg was awful. much worse than inside job.

Ed is too boring to be self referencing. Make some interesting shit up, I say.

He's "too boring" and yet you want him to make "interesting shit" up? Good luck with that.

If Ed self-references, he can only be as boring as the original songs imo. Anything that self-references my favourite PJ songs is at least worth giving a go. I also think Johnny Guitar was the best song on Backspacer, but it was most definitely a witty pop song and I wouldn't want it to represent Pearl Jam.

I'm not interested in a rich 50 year old family man's self references. I think the better choice would be to dream up some interesting things to say rather than Future Days type subject matter. Hopefully we get more of that...

What makes you think he'll suddenly come up with new and interesting things to say after the last two albums? I really wish people would stop bringing up the rich 50 year old family man crap.

I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.

WtOB? wrote:lyrics are also more important in some bands than others. in pearl jam, they're definitely an important factor.

Especially these days, because the band isn't a powerhouse anymore, so I wish the lyrics had got stronger to compensate. But it doesn't look like it.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:So no cold confession or let it ride then?

Looks like they'll be saving them for Lost Dogs 2 along with OTE.

Unless we finally get that EP, or they release them as bonus tracks/b-sides to the next few singles.

Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.

I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.

harmless wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.

I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.

yeah yeah yeah!

WtOB? wrote:

harmless wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.

I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.

yeah yeah yeah!

Johnny Guitar means nothing. But it's really well-written.

harmless wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.

I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.

Sometimes those aren't half bad.

HS wrote that when he was about twelve.

harmless wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

harmless wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.

I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.

yeah yeah yeah!

Johnny Guitar means nothing. But it's really well-written.

yeah, but i don't wanna turn on a pearl jam record and hear about johnny guitar's chronic masturbation problem.

Birds in Hell wrote:The music of Inside Job isn't bad.

And I mean, really, who cares about lyrics? They're just words.

The music to "Inside Job" isn't bad, just dull. The harmonic promise of the opening bars resolves in nothing, just musical onanism. It's dragged further down by virtue of Eddie's hammy delivery and those awful fucking lyrics-- there's really no overstating just how bad they are. If you take that away, it's just a bland, inoffensive rock tune, akin to a million others you can find in Bandcamp. It'd be a better song.

super nintendo chalmers wrote:

harmless wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.

I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.

Sometimes those aren't half bad.

HS wrote that when he was about twelve.

Sorry, I can't listen as I don't want to wake anyone and my headphones are broken. But I guess if I have something which sounds very naive and childlike, that's OK, but there has to be a knowing sense of irony there. It has to know it's being slightly silly. Supersonic has no idea it's being silly.

harmless wrote:

super nintendo chalmers wrote:

harmless wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.

I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.

Sometimes those aren't half bad.

HS wrote that when he was about twelve.

Sorry, I can't listen as I don't want to wake anyone and my headphones are broken. But I guess if I have something which sounds very naive and childlike, that's OK, but there has to be a knowing sense of irony there. It has to know it's being slightly silly. Supersonic has no idea it's being silly.

trufe. ed is earnestly singing about how he doesn't need music to live anymore and shit. it's embarrassing.

WtOB? wrote:

harmless wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

harmless wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.

I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.

yeah yeah yeah!

Johnny Guitar means nothing. But it's really well-written.

yeah, but i don't wanna turn on a pearl jam record and hear about johnny guitar's chronic masturbation problem.

And that's why, although I really like it, something like MYM makes me happier because it might not be a better song, but it's more Pearl Jam. Wait, that point has nothing to do with my previous one. I'm tired.

WtOB? wrote:

harmless wrote:

super nintendo chalmers wrote:

harmless wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:I don't know, I think looking for meaning in rock lyrics is a fool's errand. I think of vocals as an instrument in themselves: the sounds being made by the voice is what really matters, not what words are being sung.

I don't need a song to mean a great deal, I just don't really want it to sound stupid or like a 10 year old could've written it.

Sometimes those aren't half bad.

HS wrote that when he was about twelve.

Sorry, I can't listen as I don't want to wake anyone and my headphones are broken. But I guess if I have something which sounds very naive and childlike, that's OK, but there has to be a knowing sense of irony there. It has to know it's being slightly silly. Supersonic has no idea it's being silly.

trufe. ed is earnestly singing about how he doesn't need music to live anymore and shit. it's embarrassing.

"I wanna live my life with the volume full!" Fucking hell.

Johnny Guitar is fantastic.

harmless wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

harmless wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

harmless wrote:Ed has always self-referenced. I'm OK with it. I'd rather that than him trying to write something with a new subject. Johnny Guitar is the furthest he got.

and i don't want him to go there again. jg was awful. much worse than inside job.

Ed is too boring to be self referencing. Make some interesting shit up, I say.

He's "too boring" and yet you want him to make "interesting shit" up? Good luck with that.

If Ed self-references, he can only be as boring as the original songs imo. Anything that self-references my favourite PJ songs is at least worth giving a go. I also think Johnny Guitar was the best song on Backspacer, but it was most definitely a witty pop song and I wouldn't want it to represent Pearl Jam.

I'm not interested in a rich 50 year old family man's self references. I think the better choice would be to dream up some interesting things to say rather than Future Days type subject matter. Hopefully we get more of that...

What makes you think he'll suddenly come up with new and interesting things to say after the last two albums? I really wish people would stop bringing up the rich 50 year old family man crap.

He's boring an uninteresting to me as a person, that's all. Its not his fault. Younger Eddie was at least interesting. Its okay to fake it through some lyrics at 50 if it means we don't have to listen to love songs to his model wife and kids.

Birds in Hell wrote:Johnny Guitar is fantastic.

Yes.

harmless wrote:"I wanna live my life with the volume full!" Fucking hell.

i don't need you to live, but i'll never let you go eah-eah. eah yeah yeah.

verb_to_trust wrote:

harmless wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

harmless wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

WtOB? wrote:

harmless wrote:Ed has always self-referenced. I'm OK with it. I'd rather that than him trying to write something with a new subject. Johnny Guitar is the furthest he got.

and i don't want him to go there again. jg was awful. much worse than inside job.

Ed is too boring to be self referencing. Make some interesting shit up, I say.

He's "too boring" and yet you want him to make "interesting shit" up? Good luck with that.

If Ed self-references, he can only be as boring as the original songs imo. Anything that self-references my favourite PJ songs is at least worth giving a go. I also think Johnny Guitar was the best song on Backspacer, but it was most definitely a witty pop song and I wouldn't want it to represent Pearl Jam.

I'm not interested in a rich 50 year old family man's self references. I think the better choice would be to dream up some interesting things to say rather than Future Days type subject matter. Hopefully we get more of that...

What makes you think he'll suddenly come up with new and interesting things to say after the last two albums? I really wish people would stop bringing up the rich 50 year old family man crap.

He's boring an uninteresting to me as a person, that's all. Its not his fault. Younger Eddie was at least interesting. Its okay to fake it through some lyrics at 50 if it means we don't have to listen to love songs to his model wife and kids.

I don't give a shit whether he's 50 and rich, or his wife is a model. Being married and having kids is fucking wonderful and I don't mind if he sings about it. The experience isn't less true because he's rich and his wife is a model. Maybe you'd feel differently if you were a model.

theplatypus wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:Johnny Guitar is fantastic.

Yes.

as is Big Wave.