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E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Anders wrote:I’m not alt-right or a troll, so that is not why I think the prequela are better.

Don't pay attention to Alex. He doesn't know the first thing about Star Wars.

I read all the EU novels. I’m disappointed by the Disney era, but it doesn’t change the fact that the prequels are basically student film-level quality.

Alex wrote:It’s hard for me to parse whether the prequel defenders truly believe the prequels are better than the sequels on creative grounds, or if it’s just alt-right trolling. If I recall the dialogue correctly, the backlash’s seeds were planted well before The Force Awakens was even released (when the casting decisions were announced). I have strong doubts that this prequel-reappraisal movement is about aesthetics.

It’s we simple as this. The kids who grew up with the prequels as they’re Star Wars?
They’re adults now. And the prequels are still their Star Wars.

Nothing convoluted or sinister it’s just the one they grew up with.

Alex wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Anders wrote:I’m not alt-right or a troll, so that is not why I think the prequela are better.

Don't pay attention to Alex. He doesn't know the first thing about Star Wars.

I read all the EU novels. I’m disappointed by the Disney era, but it doesn’t change the fact that the prequels are basically student film-level quality.

The EU books were all student fanfic level quality writing. Not great and very often totally ridiculous.

Shots fired.

To each his own. We are all a happy Jamily and Star Wars family.

Anders wrote:Shots fired.

Tbh I’ve never read a single one of the EU books except the Thrawn book. And that was enough. So much stupid stuff in there. Thrawn is a cool character but the rest? Nah thanks.

Luuuuke the clone especially.

dimejinky99 wrote:

Alex wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Anders wrote:I’m not alt-right or a troll, so that is not why I think the prequela are better.

Don't pay attention to Alex. He doesn't know the first thing about Star Wars.

I read all the EU novels. I’m disappointed by the Disney era, but it doesn’t change the fact that the prequels are basically student film-level quality.

The EU books were all student fanfic level quality writing. Not great and very often totally ridiculous.

You are so very wrong about this.

Alex wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Anders wrote:I’m not alt-right or a troll, so that is not why I think the prequela are better.

Don't pay attention to Alex. He doesn't know the first thing about Star Wars.

I read all the EU novels. I’m disappointed by the Disney era, but it doesn’t change the fact that the prequels are basically student film-level quality.

I think you can see the shock and disappointment in that TPM documentary when George Lucas and co. just finished watching the first cut of the movie. I think they knew they had shit.

Star Wamily

It feels exactly right, that even the Star Wars: The Sequels thread would rather talk about anything else besides the Star Wars sequels.

It’s sad in many ways. The joy and uplift and just good energy in and around TFA and all that excitement and expectation. Then the weird turn but beautifully done TLJ.

Both undone by that last film. It’s brainless good fun if you watch it as a stand-alone. But it makes no sense and is a shitty ending for that trilogy and the saga as a whole.

dimejinky99 wrote:It’s sad in many ways. The joy and uplift and just good energy in and around TFA and all that excitement and expectation. Then the weird turn but beautifully done TLJ.

Both undone by that last film. It’s brainless good fun if you watch it as a stand-alone. But it makes no sense and is a shitty ending for that trilogy and the saga as a whole.

I still find it hard to believe that Disney started making the sequel trilogy without a plan in place. The incompetence is staggering.

tommy wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:It’s sad in many ways. The joy and uplift and just good energy in and around TFA and all that excitement and expectation. Then the weird turn but beautifully done TLJ.

Both undone by that last film. It’s brainless good fun if you watch it as a stand-alone. But it makes no sense and is a shitty ending for that trilogy and the saga as a whole.

I still find it hard to believe that Disney started making the sequel trilogy without a plan in place. The incompetence is staggering.

Disney dint make Star Wars. They release it and market it. Lucasfiom makes Star Wars. And yes there’s a huge difference.
Lucas didn’t have a plan for the ot.

It would be next to impossible to get a director and creative crew locked in for what would probably be 15 years work from start to finish. Doesn’t work that way sadly.

TLJ looked good, but was awful. Ruined the trilogy.

Anders wrote:TLJ looked good, but was awful. Ruined the trilogy.

Who are you and what have you done with anders?

Cut the casino nonsense out and it’s great. There’s nothing to love in that entire sequence apart from the casino set and costumes and creature design. And it adds nothing to the story really.

dimejinky99 wrote:

Anders wrote:TLJ looked good, but was awful. Ruined the trilogy.

Who are you and what have you done with anders?

Cut the casino nonsense out and it’s great. There’s nothing to love in that entire sequence apart from the casino set and costumes and creature design. And it adds nothing to the story really.

I’ve always said this. Nothing new.

I get that he was trying to be political with the Canto Bight, but it’s so ham-handed, and the story around it so poor, that it has the opposite effect.

But there are several other poor segments. Poor humor. Poor handling of characters. A misunderstanding of what Star Wars. Which weirdly, none of the tv shows have in such an amount. It also works againat what TFA ser up. Just the completely wrong director chosen.

Anders wrote:Ruined the trilogy.

In much the same way that a scratch ruins a Limp Bizkit CD.

McParadigm wrote:

Anders wrote:Ruined the trilogy.

In much the same way that a scratch ruins a Limp Bizkit CD.

TFA has some major flaws, but you could still leave the movie hoping for a solid trilogy. Also has some excellent scenes, and some inspired casting.

TROS is a fun acceptable response to the dross that preceded it.

You go too far sir! Too far!

Haha.

I wish Finn had a better trilogy, and Poe, and Han, and Kylo, and Luke. Think both the actors and the characters introduced in TFA were excellent.