Red Mosquito

Strat wrote:and the way he opens the drumming up during the outro?

Jack and Jeff are really feeling each other's vibe during the latter half of this version:

Strat wrote:

mikejasond wrote:Its true though. Yes the drumming is cool, but its pretty much the exact same thing once youve heard the first five seconds youve heard it all. And its just SO SO cheesy.

Umm. have you listened to the entire song? Or did you really give up 10 seconds in? That bridge....

I just think Who We Are did similar things better just one song earlier.

mikejasond wrote:Like seriously you find Black cheesy but then you enjoy a song about Eddie Vedder sitting in a tree and trying to make deep intelligent metaphors about his innocence?

A quirky, earnest song about a young man growing up and expanding how he views the world around him is nowhere near as cringey as an overwrought, melodramatic, woe-is-me breakup song where a borderline-yucky dude laments about not understanding why he can't have a girl. It's comically banal.

Im sitting in a treeeeee yeah, Some of my friends walk byyyyy yeah, I wave to themmmmm yeah

IM SO HIGH I LOVE MY TREE!!!!!!

What's wrong with that? Simple, silly, eloquent.

Because he doesn't think hes being silly, he thinks he's being earnest and intelligent, which is honestly usually where most of Eddie's lyrics go astray.

The smarter Eddie thinks he is, the dumber his lyrics get

There is absolutely self-conscious silliness in In My Tree. The song is playful as hell from the first second. You really don't think they're aware it's a little...uh, whimsical to be referencing the singer by name in the song? It's, like, literally self-reflexive.

I mean...Wishlist exists...so....

And...?

(And for the record I really like Wishlist but still <_<)

I mean songs like Do the Evolution is tongue in cheek surely, but In My Tree reminds me of songs like I Am Mine where Eddie thinks he is being deep and wise. Cropduster might be an even better example. Or Amongst the Waves

LoathedVermin72 wrote:You really don't think they're aware it's a little...uh, whimsical to be referencing the singer by name in the song?

I don't think he's actually doing that, for the record

Songs like IMT and Wishlist really have the same kind of heart-on-sleeve earnestness that Black does. The difference is that, by No Code and Yield, what's on Eddie's mind, it could be argued, is examining himself, his place, his desires, his reality. So he's earnest about that. On Black, he was just as earnest, except what was on his mind was obliviously self-serious angst.

theplatypus wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:You really don't think they're aware it's a little...uh, whimsical to be referencing the singer by name in the song?

I don't think he's actually doing that, for the record

Huh?

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:You really don't think they're aware it's a little...uh, whimsical to be referencing the singer by name in the song?

I don't think he's actually doing that, for the record

Huh?

He's not actually saying "Eddie is in his home", those are misheard lyrics somebody transcribed. I think McP reversed it and found out it's some backwards thing.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Songs like IMT and Wishlist really have the same kind of heart-on-sleeve earnestness that Black does. The difference is that, by No Code and Yield, what's on Eddie's mind, it could be argued, is examining himself, his place, his desires, his reality. So he's earnest about that. On Black, he was just as earnest, except what was on his mind was obliviously self-serious angst.

I will agree that IMT and Wishlist have the same heart-on-sleeve earnestness that Black does, but back when Black was out Eddie didn't think he was a wise philosopher, and then some time around Vitalogy or No Code he clearly decided that he was and he descended very very far up his own ass.

mikejasond wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Songs like IMT and Wishlist really have the same kind of heart-on-sleeve earnestness that Black does. The difference is that, by No Code and Yield, what's on Eddie's mind, it could be argued, is examining himself, his place, his desires, his reality. So he's earnest about that. On Black, he was just as earnest, except what was on his mind was obliviously self-serious angst.

I will agree that IMT and Wishlist have the same heart-on-sleeve earnestness that Black does, but back when Black was out Eddie didn't think he was a wise philosopher, and then some time around Vitalogy or No Code he clearly decided that he was and he descended very very far up his own ass.

I'll take a goofy philosopher over a jilted lover any day

theplatypus wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:You really don't think they're aware it's a little...uh, whimsical to be referencing the singer by name in the song?

I don't think he's actually doing that, for the record

Huh?

He's not actually saying "Eddie is in his home", those are misheard lyrics somebody transcribed. I think McP reversed it and found out it's some backwards thing.

Even though it's on the official PJ site?

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

mikejasond wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Songs like IMT and Wishlist really have the same kind of heart-on-sleeve earnestness that Black does. The difference is that, by No Code and Yield, what's on Eddie's mind, it could be argued, is examining himself, his place, his desires, his reality. So he's earnest about that. On Black, he was just as earnest, except what was on his mind was obliviously self-serious angst.

I will agree that IMT and Wishlist have the same heart-on-sleeve earnestness that Black does, but back when Black was out Eddie didn't think he was a wise philosopher, and then some time around Vitalogy or No Code he clearly decided that he was and he descended very very far up his own ass.

I'll take a goofy philosopher over a jilted lover any day

I still don't think he's purposely being a goofy philosopher. He doesn't know that he's being goofy. I get the sense that he takes these songs immensely seriously. At least Black isnt super pretentious which makes its earnestness a lot easier to swallow