Red Mosquito

"Too many Urkels on your team/That's why your wins low"

That's just good stuff, right there.

Kevin Davis wrote:"Too many Urkels on your team/That's why your wins low"

That's just good stuff, right there.

that is great

strat, i bet you like sage francis

Alex, how do you suppose I feel about sage francis?

who is sage francis?

joey, you might like him. strat, sage francis is a white rapper with a hipster lumberjack beard.

Sounds right up my alley.

We should have a long-distance listening date, strat.

I think I should just come to the big apple.

So is the general feeling that Kanye's producorial "genius" doesn't really kick into high gear until MDTF? I've listened to The College Dropout and now I'm listening to Late Registration, and while they are both totally solid hip-hop albums, the beats don't seem all that impressive, to be honest.

Strat wrote:I think I should just come to the big apple.

Please and thank you.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:So is the general feeling that Kanye's producorial "genius" doesn't really kick into high gear until MDTF? I've listened to The College Dropout and now I'm listening to Late Registration, and while they are both totally solid hip-hop albums, the beats don't seem all that impressive, to be honest.

If you can figure out where that genius tag comes from, please let me know.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:So is the general feeling that Kanye's producorial "genius" doesn't really kick into high gear until MDTF? I've listened to The College Dropout and now I'm listening to Late Registration, and while they are both totally solid hip-hop albums, the beats don't seem all that impressive, to be honest.

i think graduation and 808s and heartbreak, taken together, comprise the turning point for him. MBDTF is the apotheosis of the style he pioneers with those two records.

it's true that college dropout and late registration are "merely" solid hip-hop albums. although it does bear mentioning that kanye's production style of that time (heavy reliance on soul samples instead of electronic thwomping) signified a turning point in mainstream hip-hop. guys like timbaland and the neptunes were defining the landscape with those spacey, almost EDM-style beats, but kanye brought a revival of classic soul sampling that took over as the dominant production paradigm in mainstream hip-hop.

Alex wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:So is the general feeling that Kanye's producorial "genius" doesn't really kick into high gear until MDTF? I've listened to The College Dropout and now I'm listening to Late Registration, and while they are both totally solid hip-hop albums, the beats don't seem all that impressive, to be honest.

i think graduation and 808s and heartbreak, taken together, comprise the turning point for him. MBDTF is the apotheosis of the style he pioneers with those two records.

it's true that college dropout and late registration are "merely" solid hip-hop albums. although it does bear mentioning that kanye's production style of that time (heavy reliance on soul samples instead of electronic thwomping) signified a turning point in mainstream hip-hop. guys like timbaland and the neptunes were defining the landscape with those spacey, almost EDM-style beats, but kanye brought a revival of classic soul sampling that took over as the dominant production paradigm in mainstream hip-hop.

Interesting. Perhaps the impact would mean more to me if I had kept up with mainstream hip-hop after the mid '90s. I kinda went for underground stuff after that, since a lot of the poppy mainstream sound really put me off. And, you know, there's already a lot of soulful, jazzy beats in early '90s stuff (Tribe, Common) and in some of the underground stuff that followed (there's a whole lot of Stoupe the Enemy of Mankind audible in "Two Words"), so Kanye's stuff doesn't seem that new. But, like I said, I'm out of the loop.

Alex wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:So is the general feeling that Kanye's producorial "genius" doesn't really kick into high gear until MDTF? I've listened to The College Dropout and now I'm listening to Late Registration, and while they are both totally solid hip-hop albums, the beats don't seem all that impressive, to be honest.

i think graduation and 808s and heartbreak, taken together, comprise the turning point for him. MBDTF is the apotheosis of the style he pioneers with those two records.

it's true that college dropout and late registration are "merely" solid hip-hop albums. although it does bear mentioning that kanye's production style of that time (heavy reliance on soul samples instead of electronic thwomping) signified a turning point in mainstream hip-hop. guys like timbaland and the neptunes were defining the landscape with those spacey, almost EDM-style beats, but kanye brought a revival of classic soul sampling that took over as the dominant production paradigm in mainstream hip-hop.

Go on...

Kaius wrote:

Alex wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:So is the general feeling that Kanye's producorial "genius" doesn't really kick into high gear until MDTF? I've listened to The College Dropout and now I'm listening to Late Registration, and while they are both totally solid hip-hop albums, the beats don't seem all that impressive, to be honest.

i think graduation and 808s and heartbreak, taken together, comprise the turning point for him. MBDTF is the apotheosis of the style he pioneers with those two records.

it's true that college dropout and late registration are "merely" solid hip-hop albums. although it does bear mentioning that kanye's production style of that time (heavy reliance on soul samples instead of electronic thwomping) signified a turning point in mainstream hip-hop. guys like timbaland and the neptunes were defining the landscape with those spacey, almost EDM-style beats, but kanye brought a revival of classic soul sampling that took over as the dominant production paradigm in mainstream hip-hop.

Go on...

then he interrupted taylor swift and nobody wanted to talk about the music anymore

Alex wrote:

Kaius wrote:

Alex wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:So is the general feeling that Kanye's producorial "genius" doesn't really kick into high gear until MDTF? I've listened to The College Dropout and now I'm listening to Late Registration, and while they are both totally solid hip-hop albums, the beats don't seem all that impressive, to be honest.

i think graduation and 808s and heartbreak, taken together, comprise the turning point for him. MBDTF is the apotheosis of the style he pioneers with those two records.

it's true that college dropout and late registration are "merely" solid hip-hop albums. although it does bear mentioning that kanye's production style of that time (heavy reliance on soul samples instead of electronic thwomping) signified a turning point in mainstream hip-hop. guys like timbaland and the neptunes were defining the landscape with those spacey, almost EDM-style beats, but kanye brought a revival of classic soul sampling that took over as the dominant production paradigm in mainstream hip-hop.

Go on...

then he interrupted taylor swift and nobody wanted to talk about the music anymore

I could read your thoughts on hip hop all day, dunny.

I finally looked up what happened at the... was it Grammy? awards or whatever? The Beck "interruption" was really funny.

Okay, goddamn, "Addiction" is a motherfucker of a beat. Damn.

Holy fuck that song was good