Red Mosquito

Ms Harmless wrote:well yes, indigenous people of every kind should be a legally protected class; the two-spirit identity was a societal class for them long before we stole their land

You think "dream ghosts told me I was both male and female" should be enough to qualify as a federally protected identity?

trag gets it

there's zero reason why non-native colonial Christian belief should trump indigenous belief, legally or otherwise

people can be male + female for whatever reason they need to

Yeah, all religions are equally stupid. If one is protected they all should be.

tragabigzanda wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:well yes, indigenous people of every kind should be a legally protected class; the two-spirit identity was a societal class for them long before we stole their land

You think "dream ghosts told me I was both male and female" should be enough to qualify as a federally protected identity?

how is it functionally any different than “Jesus told me that all zygotes deserve a shot at life”?

It's not, both are ridiculous and have no place in the laws of a modern society.

Ms Harmless wrote: people can be male + female for whatever reason they need to

Then if anyone can be it at any point for any reason, how is it a protected class?

Ms Harmless wrote:well yes, indigenous people of every kind should be a legally protected class; the two-spirit identity was a societal class for them long before we stole their land

If you subscribe to the idea that earth is hundreds of millions of years old (or more) and that the continents were once conjoined (Pangaea), ice ages have come and gone, etc., then certainly you would agree that the peoples the Anglo settlers stole this land from was someone else’s before them, and someone else’s before them, on and on for generations. We’re just the latest ones.

Bammer wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:well yes, indigenous people of every kind should be a legally protected class; the two-spirit identity was a societal class for them long before we stole their land

If you subscribe to the idea that earth is hundreds of millions of years old (or more) and that the continents were once conjoined (Pangaea), ice ages have come and gone, etc., then certainly you would agree that the peoples the Anglo settlers stole this land from was someone else’s before them, and someone else’s before them, on and on for generations. We’re just the latest ones.

The insistence that anglo or European conquering represents a special case which must be endlessly obsessed over and is a unique mark of shame that no others share - rather than a shared tendency of all peoples (that have survived into the modern era at least) - is absurd. Every good religion needs its original sin, passion plays, etc. Wokeness certainly comes equipped with its own, and it must treat this as a special act of evil. Implicit in this is "noble savage" bullshit, and it treats nonwhites as innocent creatures incapable of guilt or shame or agency, rather than actual people.

And the two-spirit thing was made up by white people.

B wrote:I don't see it on a flag, but I think people could do a lot of cool things with that graphic.

Eventually it will become so dense as to become grey.

BurtReynolds wrote:

B wrote:I don't see it on a flag, but I think people could do a lot of cool things with that graphic.

Eventually it will become so dense as to become grey.

*beige

Spoiler: show

Like the walls in my house

Bi_3 wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote: people can be male + female for whatever reason they need to

Then if anyone can be it at any point for any reason, how is it a protected class?

really?

BurtReynolds wrote:

Bammer wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:well yes, indigenous people of every kind should be a legally protected class; the two-spirit identity was a societal class for them long before we stole their land

If you subscribe to the idea that earth is hundreds of millions of years old (or more) and that the continents were once conjoined (Pangaea), ice ages have come and gone, etc., then certainly you would agree that the peoples the Anglo settlers stole this land from was someone else’s before them, and someone else’s before them, on and on for generations. We’re just the latest ones.

The insistence that anglo or European conquering represents a special case which must be endlessly obsessed over and is a unique mark of shame that no others share - rather than a shared tendency of all peoples (that have survived into the modern era at least) - is absurd. Every good religion needs its original sin, passion plays, etc. Wokeness certainly comes equipped with its own, and it must treat this as a special act of evil. Implicit in this is "noble savage" bullshit, and it treats nonwhites as innocent creatures incapable of guilt or shame, rather than actual people.

And the two-spirit thing was made up by white people.

5 minutes on Google would show you that's demonstrably untrue

BurtReynolds wrote:

Bammer wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:well yes, indigenous people of every kind should be a legally protected class; the two-spirit identity was a societal class for them long before we stole their land

If you subscribe to the idea that earth is hundreds of millions of years old (or more) and that the continents were once conjoined (Pangaea), ice ages have come and gone, etc., then certainly you would agree that the peoples the Anglo settlers stole this land from was someone else’s before them, and someone else’s before them, on and on for generations. We’re just the latest ones.

The insistence that anglo or European conquering represents a special case which must be endlessly obsessed over and is a unique mark of shame that no others share - rather than a shared tendency of all peoples (that have survived into the modern era at least) - is absurd. Every good religion needs its original sin, passion plays, etc. Wokeness certainly comes equipped with its own, and it must treat this as a special act of evil. Implicit in this is "noble savage" bullshit, and it treats nonwhites as innocent creatures incapable of guilt or shame, rather than actual people.

And the two-spirit thing was made up by white people.

Break the wheel.

incredible twist of the narrative, that

"noble savage" was a term we made up to describe "others" we wanted to keep around because they allegedly cooperated with the project of colonisation

Ms Harmless wrote:"noble savage" was a term we made up to describe "others" we wanted to keep around because they allegedly cooperated with the project of colonisation

ahistorical nonsense, but that's on brand.

lol

you're right it was racism against whites from non-whites

Ms Harmless wrote:you're right it was racism against whites from non-whites

No it was the opposite. Only it was the "good" white liberal racism that pervades progressivism from its inception.