Red Mosquito

B wrote:This HB 2 Repeal Is Bullshit and Roy Cooper Is Selling Us Out

http://www.indyweek.com/news/archives/2 ... ing-us-out

Ok, so they repeal it but they refuse to let cities enact their own laws?

Whatever happened to local control of government principles?

Electromatic wrote:

B wrote:This HB 2 Repeal Is Bullshit and Roy Cooper Is Selling Us Out

http://www.indyweek.com/news/archives/2 ... ing-us-out

Ok, so they repeal it but they refuse to let cities enact their own laws?

Whatever happened to local control of government principles?

States' rights, baby. North Carolina has the right to fuck with it's cities and counties.

NCAA threatened to pull everything until 2020 unless they repealed the law. Notice when all this stupid shit ends in the law.

cutuphalfdead wrote:http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/03/31/radio-station-got-majorly-trolled-during-interview-about-anti-trans-free-speech-bus/

Once again proving my favorite theory:

Nobody can be a racist, homophobe or nazi pig ever again because we have FREE SPEECH now!

Yay!

B wrote:

Electromatic wrote:

B wrote:This HB 2 Repeal Is Bullshit and Roy Cooper Is Selling Us Out

http://www.indyweek.com/news/archives/2 ... ing-us-out

Ok, so they repeal it but they refuse to let cities enact their own laws?

Whatever happened to local control of government principles?

States' rights, baby. North Carolina has the right to fuck with it's cities and counties.

Bet there's a lot of NC pols that would be pissed off if the feds were telling them what to do...

Green Habit wrote:

B wrote:

Electromatic wrote:

B wrote:This HB 2 Repeal Is Bullshit and Roy Cooper Is Selling Us Out

http://www.indyweek.com/news/archives/2 ... ing-us-out

Ok, so they repeal it but they refuse to let cities enact their own laws?

Whatever happened to local control of government principles?

States' rights, baby. North Carolina has the right to fuck with it's cities and counties.

Bet there's a lot of NC pols that would be pissed off if the feds were telling them what to do...

There's a state corollary to the 10th amendment. There are many things that no level of government should do.

Green Habit wrote:

B wrote:

Electromatic wrote:

B wrote:This HB 2 Repeal Is Bullshit and Roy Cooper Is Selling Us Out

http://www.indyweek.com/news/archives/2 ... ing-us-out

Ok, so they repeal it but they refuse to let cities enact their own laws?

Whatever happened to local control of government principles?

States' rights, baby. North Carolina has the right to fuck with it's cities and counties.

Bet there's a lot of NC pols that would be pissed off if the feds were telling them what to do...

I'm pretty sure we joined the anti-Obamacare lawsuit on Medicaid expansion.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/women ... -australia

I have to say - I pretty much agree with those complaining about the advantage

Yeah, sports is gonna be tough to figure out.

B wrote:Yeah, sports is gonna be tough to figure out.

If only there were some simple way to decide who competes with who...

with whom

whom'st

The somewhat controversial "C-16" passed in Canada recently. Any Canadian RMers have an opinion on this law?

Bi_3 wrote:The somewhat controversial "C-16" passed in Canada recently. Any Canadian RMers have an opinion on this law?

What is C-16 and why is it somewhat controversial?

Green Habit wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:The somewhat controversial "C-16" passed in Canada recently. Any Canadian RMers have an opinion on this law?

What is C-16 and why is it somewhat controversial?

My limited understanding is that it adds transgendered people as a protected class, which is a good thing, but it is vague enough to where certain language use (intentionally not saying zir for example) could open a person to legal consequences as incitement of hate in front of one of Canada's "rights tribunals".

Green Habit wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:The somewhat controversial "C-16" passed in Canada recently. Any Canadian RMers have an opinion on this law?

What is C-16 and why is it somewhat controversial?

I assume it's this, which makes gender identity a protected class: https://openparliament.ca/bills/42-1/C-16/

Bi_3 wrote:

Green Habit wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:The somewhat controversial "C-16" passed in Canada recently. Any Canadian RMers have an opinion on this law?

What is C-16 and why is it somewhat controversial?

My limited understanding is that it adds transgendered people as a protected class, which is a good thing, but it is vague enough to where certain language use (intentionally not saying zir for example) could open a person to legal consequences as incitement of hate in front of one of Canada's "rights tribunals".

The bill is good except for leaving it open to being a human rights infraction for not using ze or zir or other "reasonable" pronouns was a horrible mistake. Governments should not be forcing speech on anyone. Our human rights tribunals are already a farce, this just makes it worse. I am good with them dictating that something can't be said but not that something must be said.

Our human rights tribunals provide unlimited resources to the complainant and zero resources to the defendant. They work outside our justice system, do not have the checks and balances that justice system have, and are just horrible government over reach.

That criticism is fair, but that seems like a problem with the tribunal itself and not with the specific application to the trans community.

Green Habit wrote:That criticism is fair, but that seems like a problem with the tribunal itself and not with the specific application to the trans community.

Bill C-16 is open to someone being able to make a human rights complaint because you did not use their preferred pronoun. It is government compelling speech. Any issue I have is not with the Trans community but with government compelled speech.