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Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 2:43 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 2:46 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
Interested to hear your opinion. I never pulled it he trigger on going to see it, but one theater here is still showing it.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 3:46 am
by VinylGuy
Just came back. Liked it a lot...its weird and funny. The cast is great...tom waits!! Man what a treat that was...
Bradley cooper was really funny
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 5:51 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 2:59 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 4:19 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 4:22 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 4:37 pm
by The Argonaut
I was kidding
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 4:38 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Sounds shit*y. Think i'll pass.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 4:44 pm
by VinylGuy
tragabigzanda wrote:OMG I loved it. PTA just kicking back and saying “let’s hang and have fun” for a couple hours. While it’s not The Master, the 20 minute stretch from Sean Penn & Tom Waits through everything with Bradley Cooper is up there with his best work.
Our modern lives are too compartmentalized, impersonal, and segmented. Everything back then just seemed so much more tactile and personal.
This movie has very good vibes without ever feeling sentimental. Great flick after two years stuck indoors and wearing masks.
Agree. In still thinking about it. I’m sure I’m going to see it again next week.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 4:50 pm
by Malloy
tragabigzanda wrote:The Argonaut wrote:
The pedophilia was my least favorite

tree_ wrote:Apparently this movie is "disgusting", "incoherent", "problematic" and "offensive"... guess I won't be watching it
Argo and trees friends watched a completely different movie. There’s nothing remotely upsetting about this movie. It is very upbeat and pleasant.
hard agree, though i also suspect pta intended to mildly provoke political id crowd a bit with this & with the scene in which the white restaurant owner begins (consciously or not) to mimic his wife’s accent. pta is not a dummy. raises a question — must representation in film adhere to the political advances (or the political/moral positions held by the majority of people in a society) of its moment to be considered good.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 4:52 pm
by Malloy
not a super interesting question, but one americans continue to stumble over
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 4:58 pm
by tree_
Glad you liked it trag. I was also kidding, referring to some critics’ outrage. Still can’t wait to see it.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 5:04 pm
by Malloy
tragabigzanda wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:OMG I loved it. PTA just kicking back and saying “let’s hang and have fun” for a couple hours. While it’s not The Master, the 20 minute stretch from Sean Penn & Tom Waits through everything with Bradley Cooper is up there with his best work.
Our modern lives are too compartmentalized, impersonal, and segmented. Everything back then just seemed so much more tactile and personal.
This movie has very good vibes without ever feeling sentimental. Great flick after two years stuck indoors and wearing masks.
Oh and the running motif that bothers some people: of course they were running all the time. Every scene with them running was built around a problem that today would be immediately solved by cellphones.
trag — i really wish your sentence that ends, “of course they were running all the time.” was followed by, “People throughout history have always ran.”
immortality narrowly missed
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 6:46 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 9:12 pm
by Malloy
tragabigzanda wrote:Malloy wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:The Argonaut wrote:
The pedophilia was my least favorite

tree_ wrote:Apparently this movie is "disgusting", "incoherent", "problematic" and "offensive"... guess I won't be watching it
Argo and trees friends watched a completely different movie. There’s nothing remotely upsetting about this movie. It is very upbeat and pleasant.
hard agree, though i also suspect pta intended to mildly provoke political id crowd a bit with this & with the scene in which the white restaurant owner begins (consciously or not) to mimic his wife’s accent. pta is not a dummy. raises a question — must representation in film adhere to the political advances (or the political/moral positions held by the majority of people in a society) of its moment to be considered good.
I think that much of this film stems from his own experiences growing up in Hollywood, as well as those of a particular kid who became a well known agent (this has been covered in interviews). My hunch is that those scenes are based on something that really happened.
who is the agent?
im aware of the personal aspect of the movie, though im not convinced one needs to invoke historical fidelity to rationalize the inclusion of any of these scenes.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 9:17 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 9:18 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 9:18 pm
by Malloy
i missed this article, thanks!
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Sat January 29, 2022 9:19 pm
by Malloy
tragabigzanda wrote:And no I agree he doesn’t have to invoke fidelity…but I think it gives him added cover.
definitely