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Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 12:42 pm
by B
tree_ wrote:when ppl and ads be like, "2 pair"
cause like, there're two, and a pair is two, so they get confused
cause usually if they say 3, or 4, they will say appropriately "pairs"
Hmmmm .... Wouldn't "4" imply 4 things (either the same or slightly different) and "2 pair" imply 2 matching things and 2 other matching things?
I could go in my closet and pull out 2 pairs of shoes or 4 shoes and end up with very different things.
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 12:49 pm
by Bammer
B wrote:tree_ wrote:when ppl and ads be like, "2 pair"
cause like, there're two, and a pair is two, so they get confused
cause usually if they say 3, or 4, they will say appropriately "pairs"
Hmmmm .... Wouldn't "4" imply 4 things (either the same or slightly different) and "2 pair" imply 2 matching things and 2 other matching things?
I could go in my closet and pull out 2 pairs of shoes or 4 shoes and end up with very different things.
Seems to me the hatred is of the word “pair” as opposed to “pairs” when describing multiple pair(s).
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 12:51 pm
by wease
Bammer wrote:B wrote:tree_ wrote:when ppl and ads be like, "2 pair"
cause like, there're two, and a pair is two, so they get confused
cause usually if they say 3, or 4, they will say appropriately "pairs"
Hmmmm .... Wouldn't "4" imply 4 things (either the same or slightly different) and "2 pair" imply 2 matching things and 2 other matching things?
I could go in my closet and pull out 2 pairs of shoes or 4 shoes and end up with very different things.
Seems to me the hatred is of the word “pair” as opposed to “pairs” when describing multiple pair(s).
I think tree_ is saying people don’t know the difference between 2 of something and 2 pairs and use the terms interchangeably.
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 12:52 pm
by Bammer
wease wrote:Bammer wrote:B wrote:tree_ wrote:when ppl and ads be like, "2 pair"
cause like, there're two, and a pair is two, so they get confused
cause usually if they say 3, or 4, they will say appropriately "pairs"
Hmmmm .... Wouldn't "4" imply 4 things (either the same or slightly different) and "2 pair" imply 2 matching things and 2 other matching things?
I could go in my closet and pull out 2 pairs of shoes or 4 shoes and end up with very different things.
Seems to me the hatred is of the word “pair” as opposed to “pairs” when describing multiple pair(s).
I think tree_ is saying people don’t know the difference between 2 of something and 2 pairs and use the terms interchangeably.
Tree needs to get a fucking grip.
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 12:53 pm
by wease
Bammer wrote:wease wrote:Bammer wrote:B wrote:tree_ wrote:when ppl and ads be like, "2 pair"
cause like, there're two, and a pair is two, so they get confused
cause usually if they say 3, or 4, they will say appropriately "pairs"
Hmmmm .... Wouldn't "4" imply 4 things (either the same or slightly different) and "2 pair" imply 2 matching things and 2 other matching things?
I could go in my closet and pull out 2 pairs of shoes or 4 shoes and end up with very different things.
Seems to me the hatred is of the word “pair” as opposed to “pairs” when describing multiple pair(s).
I think tree_ is saying people don’t know the difference between 2 of something and 2 pairs and use the terms interchangeably.
Tree needs to get a fucking grip.
You’re telling me?
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 12:56 pm
by Bammer
wease wrote:Bammer wrote:wease wrote:Bammer wrote:B wrote:tree_ wrote:when ppl and ads be like, "2 pair"
cause like, there're two, and a pair is two, so they get confused
cause usually if they say 3, or 4, they will say appropriately "pairs"
Hmmmm .... Wouldn't "4" imply 4 things (either the same or slightly different) and "2 pair" imply 2 matching things and 2 other matching things?
I could go in my closet and pull out 2 pairs of shoes or 4 shoes and end up with very different things.
Seems to me the hatred is of the word “pair” as opposed to “pairs” when describing multiple pair(s).
I think tree_ is saying people don’t know the difference between 2 of something and 2 pairs and use the terms interchangeably.
Tree needs to get a fucking grip.
You’re telling me?
It’s a general statement
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 1:13 pm
by tree_
B wrote:tree_ wrote:when ppl and ads be like, "2 pair"
cause like, there're two, and a pair is two, so they get confused
cause usually if they say 3, or 4, they will say appropriately "pairs"
Hmmmm .... Wouldn't "4" imply 4 things (either the same or slightly different) and "2 pair" imply 2 matching things and 2 other matching things?
I could go in my closet and pull out 2 pairs of shoes or 4 shoes and end up with very different things.
It's as simple as this: "1 pair" is the only time you say "pair", singular; while when you have 2 or more pairs of something, you're supposed to say "pairs", not "2 pair" or "3 pair". For some reason this is a very commonly difficult concept to grasp for many people. I believe, as stated before, it is because when people think "pair", they think 2, and when they think they have 2 pairs of something it's as if it's already a singular pair, so they stupidly get confused. It's similar to how people get confused about "texted", past tense, thinking "text" is enough, because it already sounds like there's a past tense "ed" there to them.
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 1:26 pm
by tree_
Bammer wrote:Seems to me the hatred is of the word “pair” as opposed to “pairs” when describing multiple pair(s).
correct
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 1:26 pm
by B
"pair" has 2 acceptable plurals, "pair" and "pairs."
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/pair
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 1:27 pm
by Bammer
tree_ wrote:B wrote:tree_ wrote:when ppl and ads be like, "2 pair"
cause like, there're two, and a pair is two, so they get confused
cause usually if they say 3, or 4, they will say appropriately "pairs"
Hmmmm .... Wouldn't "4" imply 4 things (either the same or slightly different) and "2 pair" imply 2 matching things and 2 other matching things?
I could go in my closet and pull out 2 pairs of shoes or 4 shoes and end up with very different things.
It's as simple as this: "1 pair" is the only time you say "pair", singular; while when you have 2 or more pairs of something, you're supposed to say "pairs", not "2 pair" or "3 pair". For some reason this is a very commonly difficult concept to grasp for many people. I believe, as stated before, it is because when people think "pair", they think 2, and when they think they have 2 pairs of something it's as if it's already a singular pair, so they stupidly get confused. It's similar to how people get confused about "texted", past tense, thinking "text" is enough, because it already sounds like there's a past tense "ed" there to them.
I was right about Tree’s hatred on this.
B, on the other hand, uses 2/10 as part of his rating system.
Wease…not sure what to say about wease.
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 1:30 pm
by tree_
OK, so this is the first I've read or heard about this justification (below), and I find it completely moronic. Pair means a set of something. If you have multiple sets, then "pairs" makes more sense than "pair", inanimate or not. It's just being stupid and lazy.
GRAMMAR NOTES FOR PAIR
When used without a modifier, pairs is the only possible plural: Pairs of skaters glided over the ice. When modified by a number, pairs is the more common form, especially referring to persons: Six pairs of masked dancers led the procession. The unmarked plural pair is used mainly in reference to inanimate objects or nonhumans: He has three pair (or pairs ) of loafers. Two pair (or pairs ) of barn owls have nested on our property.
Pair signifying two individuals can take either a singular or plural verb, but it is usually followed by a plural verb and referred to by a plural pronoun: The guilty pair have not been seen since their escape.
In the sense “a set or combination of more than two objects forming a collective whole,” pair occurs chiefly in fixed phrases: a pair of beads; a pair of stairs. This use is now somewhat old-fashioned. See also collective noun, couple.
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 1:31 pm
by Bammer
Tree you are clearly wrong on this. Saying “2 pair” is normal.
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 1:32 pm
by Bammer
Can’t poke any holes in my 2/10 hatred though. Bulletproof.
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 1:32 pm
by tree_
Bammer wrote:Tree you are clearly wrong on this. Saying “2 pair” is normal.
Just because people have normalized it doesn't mean it makes any fucking sense.
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 1:32 pm
by B
I don't really care, I just took so much shit for using "Tab" to navigate an online form, that I feel like I have to fuck with someone.
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 1:33 pm
by tree_
I forgive you.
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 1:36 pm
by tree_
Here, think about it this way. Let's use the word "couple" instead of "pair". 1 couple, 2 couple, 3 couple? Or: 1 couple, 2 couples, 3 couples? Again, the only reason "3 pair" instead of "3 pairs" of something even became so common is because people are stupid.
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 3:32 pm
by B
What if there are 2 thruples?
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 3:53 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
This conversation is pissing me off
Re: Things you have an irrational hatred of
Posted: Wed June 15, 2022 4:24 pm
by tree_
B wrote:What if there are 2 thruples?
Then there are 2 thruples. 1 thruple, 2 thruples.