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Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 12:38 pm
by stip
digster wrote:Personally, I'd say every single song on Binaural is better than Force of Nature, for one.
i would say the exact opposite :)

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 12:40 pm
by stip
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
stip wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:I LOVE the Fixer. One of my favorite PJ songs of all time.
High Five!!

also, KD, i agree the album is uneven after that opening run, though Force of Nature is my favorite song on the album
I know I shouldn't talk, like at all, because I like Amongst the Waves so much. But god I do not understand the love for Force of Nature.

Opposite. Force of nature is the best song they've written since Yield.
Amongst the waves fails all over. Too much trying to sound like pearl jam and failing by forcing it. It's play count (only 42 times played) vs unthought knowns play count (123 times)
Makes that point. UK is a truer more natural song to PJ. ATW should be but just isn't.
Obviously, I disagree and most everyone else agrees with you. Which is why I said I had no right to talk. My point still stands. I will never understand the love for Force of Nature.
if i can find an idle moment today ill post a love letter to that song

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 12:42 pm
by stip
Kevin Davis wrote:By the way, stip, "Force of Nature" is one of my favorites on there as well. In fact, I think we share a lot of the same affinities for Backspacer -- we just don't ultimately rank it the same in the catalog as a whole.

your appreciation for Backspacer helped keep me sane during the height of the pile-on and collapse of my RM credibility :)

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 12:43 pm
by Jorge
"Force of Nature" has its charms. I like it. It's just very mediocre musically. The only Binaural song it's better than is "Soon Forget".

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 12:44 pm
by stip
Kevin Davis wrote:Whoa, whoa -- I am fond of "Force of Nature," but best since Yield? Thaf's crazy talk.
i know. it totally discounts the first 3 songs on S/T!

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 4:27 pm
by Kevin Davis
theplatypus wrote:"Force of Nature" has its charms. I like it. It's just very mediocre musically. The only Binaural song it's better than is "Soon Forget".
"Soon Forget" is a better song than it gets credit for -- the uke arrangement sounds kind of chintzy and the lyrics suck, but the tune and the chords are great. I really like Eddie's writing on the uke -- he seems more interested in messing around with surprising chords and harmonies, where on guitar he just seems to default to fairly common open chords and/or power chords.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 4:29 pm
by Kevin Davis
stip wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:By the way, stip, "Force of Nature" is one of my favorites on there as well. In fact, I think we share a lot of the same affinities for Backspacer -- we just don't ultimately rank it the same in the catalog as a whole.

your appreciation for Backspacer helped keep me sane during the height of the pile-on and collapse of my RM credibility :)
Let's rank Backspacer:

Johnny Guitar
The Fixer
Force of Nature
Got Some
Gonna See My Friend
The End
Speed of Sound
Supersonic
Just Breathe
Amongst the Waves
Unthought Known

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 4:56 pm
by gardenparty
Speed of Sound
Johnny Guitar
Got Some
The Fixer
The End
Force of Nature
Gonna See My Friend
Unthought Known
Just Breathe
Amongst the Waves
Supersonic

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 9:10 pm
by parasolmonster
Gonna See My Friend
Got Some
Supersonic
Johnny Guitar
Unthought Known
The End
Speed of Sound

Force of Nature
Just Breathe

The Fixer


Amongst the Waves

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 9:27 pm
by swan
Got Some
Force of Nature
Speed of Sound
Gonna See My Friend
Just Breathe
Supersonic
Johnny Guitar
The End
The Fixer
Unthought Known
Amongst the Waves

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 9:29 pm
by guestT
The End
Everything but the vocals/lyrics of Got Some
The solo/bridge in Amongst the Waves
Speed of Sound
The outro solo in Force of Nature
The chorus of The Fixer
Gonna See My Friend
Johnny Guitar
Unthought Known
Just Breathe
Supersonic

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 9:32 pm
by Jorge
Backspacer is an album I like less and less the more I think about it

Johnny Guitar
The End
Gonna See My Friend
Force of Nature
Got Some
Speed of Sound
Just Breathe
Amongst the Waves
Supersonic
The Fixer
Unthought Known

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 10:24 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
GSMF
Johnny Guitar

IDGAF

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 10:53 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:You Are is the best song since Yield.
Army Reserve is the best song since Riot Act.
The Fixer is the best song since Avocado.
Pendulum is the best song since Backspacer.
Infallible is the best song since Riot Act.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 10:54 pm
by epilogue
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
stip wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:I LOVE the Fixer. One of my favorite PJ songs of all time.
High Five!!

also, KD, i agree the album is uneven after that opening run, though Force of Nature is my favorite song on the album
I know I shouldn't talk, like at all, because I like Amongst the Waves so much. But god I do not understand the love for Force of Nature.

Opposite. Force of nature is the best song they've written since Yield.
Amongst the waves fails all over. Too much trying to sound like pearl jam and failing by forcing it. It's play count (only 42 times played) vs unthought knowns play count (123 times)
Makes that point. UK is a truer more natural song to PJ. ATW should be but just isn't.
Obviously, I disagree and most everyone else agrees with you. Which is why I said I had no right to talk. My point still stands. I will never understand the love for Force of Nature.

There's a beautiful loose but intent energy in force of nature that pearl jam hasn't managed to conjure in a long time. Maybe in puzzle and games.
I'm hearing a totally different song.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 10:55 pm
by epilogue
cutuphalfdead wrote:
digster wrote:Personally, I'd say every single song on Binaural is better than Force of Nature, for one.
And you'd be right.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 10:56 pm
by epilogue
theplatypus wrote:"Force of Nature" has its charms. I like it. It's just very mediocre musically. The only Binaural song it's better than is "Soon Forget".
I'll take Soon Forget any day of the week.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 10:56 pm
by stip
Finally, a Backspacer ranking!


Force of Nature
The Fixer
Gonna See My Friend
Johnny Guitar
Got Some
Just Breathe
Amongst the Waves
The End
Unthought Known
Speed of Sound
Supersonic


The Just Breathe through Unthought Known run is fairly close. Supersonic is the only song I just don't care for.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 10:57 pm
by Bammer
Thanks a lot people for turning this otherwise great thread into just another shit thread on RM ranking things.

You are the worst Pearl Jam fans I know.

Re: The Worst Pearl Jam Fans You Know

Posted: Fri October 07, 2016 10:58 pm
by stip
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
stip wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:I LOVE the Fixer. One of my favorite PJ songs of all time.
High Five!!

also, KD, i agree the album is uneven after that opening run, though Force of Nature is my favorite song on the album
I know I shouldn't talk, like at all, because I like Amongst the Waves so much. But god I do not understand the love for Force of Nature.

Opposite. Force of nature is the best song they've written since Yield.
Amongst the waves fails all over. Too much trying to sound like pearl jam and failing by forcing it. It's play count (only 42 times played) vs unthought knowns play count (123 times)
Makes that point. UK is a truer more natural song to PJ. ATW should be but just isn't.
Obviously, I disagree and most everyone else agrees with you. Which is why I said I had no right to talk. My point still stands. I will never understand the love for Force of Nature.

There's a beautiful loose but intent energy in force of nature that pearl jam hasn't managed to conjure in a long time. Maybe in puzzle and games.
I'm hearing a totally different song.

This always feels like a cop out but give FoN a good listen with headphones. There's a lot of cool stuff happening underneath what is on the surface, a fairly clunky and uninspiring riff (especially during the second verse). Also Eddie gives a pretty passionate performance, some of his best lyrics, and a simple but cathartically inspiring outro.