Re: Pearl Jam WEEK on Jimmy Fallon
Posted: Thu October 24, 2013 2:15 pm
I think a lot of the Nu Metal guys did PJ covers.
The only one out of these in the ballpark is Black Keys and Rival. That would actually work.stupidmop wrote:I think the ten stuff would be the hardest to pull off. Especially if you don't want to straight up copy it and sound like an ass as a result.
I'd love to hear the black keys do rival or red mosquito. Kol could pull off rvm......maybe, or hail hail maybe. Qotsa doing Tremor Christ or no way would be badass. Hell they could do dte probably.
As long as he tones down the Thin White Duke shit we may be okay.stupidmop wrote:Idk I think the qotsa ones could work, everything would be darker and dirtier and groovier...and homme could do the vocals his own way = muchos sexy times
Strat wrote:How can you be a big enough PJ fan to waste time on a pj message board talking about recent albums that you dont even like yet still not get a little giddy when you see Mike McCready do the Alive solo?? Thats like, woa, man. Its Alive. Its part of the reason we are all fans, no? Sure, Mikes wankery on recent stuff can get old but its that little meathead/nerd Mike playing alive :\
That was fun.
LOL at Dierks Bentley though. Also, I would never expect anyone to go on a late night tv show and dig deep into the catalog. I wasn't expecting anything but the hits. QOTSA would have been great doing Tremor Christ, for sure, but they are too fucking cool for such ballyhoo.
Personally I dont find many of the PJ hits to be bland enough for them to be adaptable to other bands styles (save for Betterman). Other bands covering PJ will always be awkward in that regard, they will always come across as PJ cover band at any one of those retarded wishlist Foundation pre shows.
Shit what's Ben Harper up to this week?bluestate wrote: Just off the top of my head.... I might pick Red Mosquito from that list
evenslow wrote:As long as he tones down the Thin White Duke shit we may be okay.stupidmop wrote:Idk I think the qotsa ones could work, everything would be darker and dirtier and groovier...and homme could do the vocals his own way = muchos sexy times
bada wrote:evenslow wrote:As long as he tones down the Thin White Duke shit we may be okay.stupidmop wrote:Idk I think the qotsa ones could work, everything would be darker and dirtier and groovier...and homme could do the vocals his own way = muchos sexy times
How about puggy ginger duke?
I'm with you. That was fun. Love Questlove's work on this song. Would be great to hear these guys play with the band.Strat wrote:How can you be a big enough PJ fan to waste time on a pj message board talking about recent albums that you dont even like yet still not get a little giddy when you see Mike McCready do the Alive solo?? Thats like, woa, man. Its Alive. Its part of the reason we are all fans, no? Sure, Mikes wankery on recent stuff can get old but its that little meathead/nerd Mike playing alive :\
That was fun.
Could you just shorten this stuff to "how can you not like the things that I like a lot," in the future?Strat wrote:How can you be a big enough PJ fan to waste time on a pj message board talking about recent albums that you dont even like yet still not get a little giddy when you see Mike McCready do the Alive solo?? Thats like, woa, man. Its Alive. Its part of the reason we are all fans, no? Sure, Mikes wankery on recent stuff can get old but its that little meathead/nerd Mike playing alive :\
That was actually a lot of fun. Roots brought it home - loved that organ.
I don't think it's a "Pearl Jam are rawk gods" thing at all. It's down to a type of songwriting. There are a lot of great songs out there (see: Zeppelin, My Generation, some Rolling Stones stuff) that are built more on the creation of a sound and the designing of events within that sound than in the traditional, "sit at a piano or edge of your bed" type songwriting. Lots of people cover Dylan or Neil and do a really good job of it, because they have these "edge of the bed" traditional songwriting methodologies. But not very many people cover Zeppelin, and far fewer cover them or the Stones well. Their songs are built too much on the tones, and the attitude, and the strut and all these ethereal qualities that are unique to them. The only ones that ever succeed at covering them are the ones that break the songs apart and find a whole new sonic canvas for them to exist within.The rest just speak to the blend of musicianship and x-factor (see: Ed) that other bands just don't have.
Michael Stipe did that Long Road cover a ways back, which was pretty damn cool. I think they just need the combination of great artists with the right song. Ten is a strange combination of elements; you've got this riff-based songwriting partnered with Ed's meandering style; I think that album, more than any other, is likely the hardest to translate. Throughout their career, they've been able to build a pretty diverse catalog that includes more overt dips into genre songwriting. I think an alt-country songwriter would be able to find a great performance in something like Off He Goes or All or None.stip wrote:
maybe. On the other hand no one is really going to bat for these covers either. Are there some good ones out there? I'd love to hear them. I generally like covers.
This is true; there's no doubt 'band' songwriting, for lack of a better term, is harder to translate than solo artist songwriting, likely because the songwriting itself is infused with the personality of the group of five (or however many) individuals, rather than Neil or Bob, as you mentioned, just bringing their songs in.McParadigm wrote: I don't think it's a "Pearl Jam are rawk gods" thing at all. It's down to a type of songwriting. There are a lot of great songs out there (see: Zeppelin, My Generation, some Rolling Stones stuff) that are built more on the creation of a sound and the designing of events within that sound than in the traditional, "sit at a piano or edge of your bed" type songwriting. Lots of people cover Dylan or Neil and do a really good job of it, because they have these "edge of the bed" traditional songwriting methodologies. But not very many people cover Zeppelin, and far fewer cover them or the Stones well. Their songs are built too much on the tones, and the attitude, and the strut and all these ethereal qualities that are unique to them. The only ones that ever succeed at covering them are the ones that break the songs apart and find a whole new sonic canvas for them to exist within.
Also, as with those bands, Pearl Jam has some songs that are more closely tied to their personal core sound than others, and those are going to be the ones that are hardest to find a unique voice on. Which brings us back to: bad choice of song to cover.
I think you just said what I did but in classic TLDR McParadigm form.McParadigm wrote:I don't think it's a "Pearl Jam are rawk gods" thing at all. It's down to a type of songwriting. There are a lot of great songs out there (see: Zeppelin, My Generation, some Rolling Stones stuff) that are built more on the creation of a sound and the designing of events within that sound than in the traditional, "sit at a piano or edge of your bed" type songwriting. Lots of people cover Dylan or Neil and do a really good job of it, because they have these "edge of the bed" traditional songwriting methodologies. But not very many people cover Zeppelin, and far fewer cover them or the Stones well. Their songs are built too much on the tones, and the attitude, and the strut and all these ethereal qualities that are unique to them. The only ones that ever succeed at covering them are the ones that break the songs apart and find a whole new sonic canvas for them to exist within.The rest just speak to the blend of musicianship and x-factor (see: Ed) that other bands just don't have.
Also, as with those bands, Pearl Jam has some songs that are more closely tied to their personal core sound than others, and those are going to be the ones that are hardest to find a unique voice on. Which brings us back to: bad choice of song to cover.