Red Mosquito

Kevin Davis wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Also, I've never met a single person that likes Heavier Than Heaven, except Courtney fucking Love. Isn't it pretty universally regarded as pandering garbage?

I've never read it.

I read it when I was 18-19, dct -- I didn't really think to question much of it, I just remember thinking that he presumed an awareness of detail when describing certain things that he couldn't possibly possess. There was another part where he described Kurt losing his virginity, and he talked about how Kurt walked around the next day sniffing his fingertips to smell the girl's "essence" or something like that. What possible source would he have for something like that, and who the hell cares?

Honestly, musician bios in general don't really hold my interest, at least not beyond the parts that deal directly with the music and the creative process. I read a wonderful -- and, from what I can tell, exhaustively researched -- Thelonious Monk biography last summer, and even then I found myself glossing over the parts about his family's financial problems and his kids' birthdays and perking up when he'd get into the studio with Sonny Rollins and start jamming, or when he'd sit down at his piano and start noodling around with a melody that would eventually become "Straight, No Chaser." For as much as common biographical details might illuminate one's understanding of the art itself (though I'll admit that, for me, they rarely do), when told objectively they often just come off as dry, boring facts (and, as we've established, when embellished upon for effect, they feel exploitative if not altogether made up). My sole point of contact with these people is their music, and ultimately that's the subject that engages me.

I was thinking not long ago (on a day when I listened to "Bleach" and found myself for the first time really loving every track) that my appreciation for Nirvana is really at an all-time high right now; I loved them more intensely as a teenager, but there were also whole elements of their musical range that I just didn't "get." I think they've gone well past the bottom of the barrel with the archival stuff, but I wouldn't change a note of their core catalog -- the albums, the B-sides, pretty much everything not on "With the Lights Out" or the reissues. It's soul food for me at this point -- I love it all. How much of this movie would those who've seen it say is music-focused, and how much of it is details about his drug use, his marriage, etc?

durdencommatyler wrote:The home video stuff is so weird and difficult. Nauseating at times. Who is filming most of that stuff? Who the fuck is filming pregnant Courtney powdering her vagina after a shower while complaining to Kurt that nobody in the media likes her while Kurt is shaving a mustache? Who is in the bathroom with them filming that? And why?

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU IN THERE WITH A CAMERA, PERSON?

vedder316 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:The home video stuff is so weird and difficult. Nauseating at times. Who is filming most of that stuff? Who the fuck is filming pregnant Courtney powdering her vagina after a shower while complaining to Kurt that nobody in the media likes her while Kurt is shaving a mustache? Who is in the bathroom with them filming that? And why?

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU IN THERE WITH A CAMERA, PERSON?

I read somewhere that Eric Erlandson, Hole guitarist and former boyfriend of Courtney's, videotaped alot of that. I'll try and find the article, but Brett Morgen described it as beyond bizarre that Courtney's former love interest was filming the two of them.

durdencommatyler wrote:

vedder316 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:The home video stuff is so weird and difficult. Nauseating at times. Who is filming most of that stuff? Who the fuck is filming pregnant Courtney powdering her vagina after a shower while complaining to Kurt that nobody in the media likes her while Kurt is shaving a mustache? Who is in the bathroom with them filming that? And why?

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU IN THERE WITH A CAMERA, PERSON?

I read somewhere that Eric Erlandson, Hole guitarist and former boyfriend of Courtney's, videotaped alot of that. I'll try and find the article, but Brett Morgen described it as beyond bizarre that Courtney's former love interest was filming the two of them.

Jesus. If that's true, that's completely bizarre. There's just no bottom to her fucked-up-ness.

vedder316 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

vedder316 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:The home video stuff is so weird and difficult. Nauseating at times. Who is filming most of that stuff? Who the fuck is filming pregnant Courtney powdering her vagina after a shower while complaining to Kurt that nobody in the media likes her while Kurt is shaving a mustache? Who is in the bathroom with them filming that? And why?

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU IN THERE WITH A CAMERA, PERSON?

I read somewhere that Eric Erlandson, Hole guitarist and former boyfriend of Courtney's, videotaped alot of that. I'll try and find the article, but Brett Morgen described it as beyond bizarre that Courtney's former love interest was filming the two of them.

Jesus. If that's true, that's completely bizarre. There's just no bottom to her fucked-up-ness.

This wasnt the exact article I saw, but this one from billboard mentions it towards the end:

http://www.billboard.com/kurt-cobain-mo ... m-festival

theplatypus wrote:I feel like if that's true, Courtney is the least creepy person in that scenario.

spike wrote:i'm pretty sure we can assume that kurt, courtney, and eric erlandson were all shooting up together when those vids were taken. if you put it in the context of three junkies hanging out, it sorta makes sense.

bodysnatcher wrote: