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Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Fri April 21, 2017 3:58 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I don't think I've ever heard a Sammy Van Halen song.
I remember when "Poundcake" was a huge fucking deal because he used a power drill on his guitar. And I haven't heard it in 25 years, which goes to show what a huge impact it had.
Hahaha holy shit this is so lame

For the younger folks out there, that was exactly why Nirvana happened. I remember that Van Hagar album was huge that year, along with those two bloated Guns N Roses albums. They were everywhere, like a goddamn recurring nightmare. Not so much anymore.

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Fri April 21, 2017 3:59 am
by Strat
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I don't think I've ever heard a Sammy Van Halen song.
I remember when "Poundcake" was a huge fucking deal because he used a power drill on his guitar. And I haven't heard it in 25 years, which goes to show what a huge impact it had.
Hahaha holy shit this is so lame

For the younger folks out there, that was exactly why Nirvana happened. I remember that Van Hagar album was huge that year, along with those two bloated Guns N Roses albums. They were everywhere, like a goddamn recurring nightmare. Not so much anymore.
Fuck you. UYI 1 and 2 are great. Not even in the same bullshit shit that was Van Hagar

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Fri April 21, 2017 4:01 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
Strat wrote:Fuck you. UYI 1 and 2 are great. Not even in the same bullshit shit that was Van Hagar
I wasn't putting them in the same artistic bag. Just that they were fucking annoying with one 8 minute single after another. It was like in 1988 with that Def Leppard album. Every song was a goddamn single and played endlessly on MTV and it never ended.

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Fri April 21, 2017 4:04 am
by Strat
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
Strat wrote:Fuck you. UYI 1 and 2 are great. Not even in the same bullshit shit that was Van Hagar
I wasn't putting them in the same artistic bag. Just that they were fucking annoying with one 8 minute single after another. It was like in 1988 with that Def Leppard album. Every song was a goddamn single and played endlessly on MTV and it never ended.
ah the good ol' days.

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Fri April 21, 2017 4:08 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
As if it wasn't enough to suffer through one version of "Don't Cry", they used to air both versions and people would cream over their artistic bravado and argue about which version was better. Then they released "November Rain" and I heard that every 15 minutes.

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Fri April 21, 2017 4:09 am
by Strat
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:As if it wasn't enough to suffer through one version of "Don't Cry", they used to air both versions and people would cream over their artistic bravado and argue about which version was better. Then they released "November Rain" and I heard that every 15 minutes.
Dont you wish that kind of shit got tv play these days too? Maybe we wouldnt have Donald Trump as president if GnR releaed August Rain along when Metallica released Unforgiven 4

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Fri April 21, 2017 4:10 am
by LetMeSleep
Strat wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:As if it wasn't enough to suffer through one version of "Don't Cry", they used to air both versions and people would cream over their artistic bravado and argue about which version was better. Then they released "November Rain" and I heard that every 15 minutes.
Dont you wish that kind of shit got tv play these days too? Maybe we wouldnt have Donald Trump as president if GnR releaed August Rain along when Metallica released Unforgiven 4
Does Hetfield get burned again?

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Fri April 21, 2017 4:12 am
by Strat
LetMeSleep wrote:
Strat wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:As if it wasn't enough to suffer through one version of "Don't Cry", they used to air both versions and people would cream over their artistic bravado and argue about which version was better. Then they released "November Rain" and I heard that every 15 minutes.
Dont you wish that kind of shit got tv play these days too? Maybe we wouldnt have Donald Trump as president if GnR releaed August Rain along when Metallica released Unforgiven 4
Does Hetfield get burned again?
Ill ask him next time i appraise his house

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Fri April 21, 2017 4:28 am
by TremorJam
Summer of '91.. Skid Row had the first #1 album with sales recorded through Digalog. MTV made a huge deal about it. It was interesting watching music change right in front of our eyes. I still think R.E.M. was a big part of it that never gets mainstream credit for it. "Out Of Time" was huge that year. Back then, I called them College Music.

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Fri April 21, 2017 6:20 am
by contamination
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I don't think I've ever heard a Sammy Van Halen song.
I remember when "Poundcake" was a huge fucking deal because he used a power drill on his guitar. And I haven't heard it in 25 years, which goes to show what a huge impact it had.
Hahaha holy shit this is so lame

For the younger folks out there, that was exactly why Nirvana happened. I remember that Van Hagar album was huge that year, along with those two bloated Guns N Roses albums. They were everywhere, like a goddamn recurring nightmare. Not so much anymore.
But Mike McCready loved that shit, didn't he?

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Fri April 21, 2017 12:44 pm
by evenslow
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:As if it wasn't enough to suffer through one version of "Don't Cry", they used to air both versions and people would cream over their artistic bravado and argue about which version was better. Then they released "November Rain" and I heard that every 15 minutes.
Speaking of, the guy who directed that Poundcake vid is the same guy who directed Don't Cry and November Rain.

Also, Wake Me Up Before You Go Go.

This has been random MTV director facts, brought to you by evenslow.

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Mon April 24, 2017 10:25 am
by lecherouslittlestump
To anyone who said Matt Cameron lacks groove

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT_fFwV-xIk

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Tue April 25, 2017 1:15 pm
by taffer
not sure if this related to the topic, but theres the isolated drum tracks from Dave K on youtube, now i'm wondering about isolated drums for the other albums
Pearl Jam - Even Flow (drums only)

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Tue April 25, 2017 1:33 pm
by evenslow
Very cool. The whole Hall of Fame thing and stuff like this makes me completely reassess Dave K. I kind still associated Ten with Dave A. b/c he was the guy touring it. Turns out Dave K was funky in his own right - underrated!

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Tue April 25, 2017 2:26 pm
by darth_vedder
evenslow wrote:Very cool. The whole Hall of Fame thing and stuff like this makes me completely reassess Dave K. I kind still associated Ten with Dave A. b/c he was the guy touring it. Turns out Dave K was funky in his own right - underrated!
Totally. It may be an unpopular PJ opinion, but this is why I kinda like the Ten redux. The drums really pop on it kinda giving the album a live feel. Porch is a really good example of what a great drummer Krusen is.

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Tue April 25, 2017 2:28 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Dave K. looks like he might be the nicest of all the drummers.

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Tue April 25, 2017 2:33 pm
by darth_vedder
Image

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Tue April 25, 2017 2:35 pm
by Strat
lecherouslittlestump wrote:To anyone who said Matt Cameron lacks groove

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT_fFwV-xIk
Correct.

Yea, i think its mostly on the band as they dont write really groovy tunes anymore. No space for nothing in many of their songs these days as well as no subtlety in their older songs anymore. Though i do get that Matt C doesn't really bring much to a song like Animal....

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Tue April 25, 2017 2:54 pm
by evenslow
darth_vedder wrote:
evenslow wrote:Very cool. The whole Hall of Fame thing and stuff like this makes me completely reassess Dave K. I kind still associated Ten with Dave A. b/c he was the guy touring it. Turns out Dave K was funky in his own right - underrated!
Totally. It may be an unpopular PJ opinion, but this is why I kinda like the Ten redux. The drums really pop on it kinda giving the album a live feel. Porch is a really good example of what a great drummer Krusen is.
Let the Krusenssaince begin!!

Re: Let the drummer debate continue!

Posted: Tue April 25, 2017 3:19 pm
by Kevin Davis
Groove. Groove groove groove.

Groove.