Re: Post Random Pearl Jam-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu September 15, 2016 8:53 pm
Strat wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:I don't have the problem with Ed's modern vocal style that everyone else seems to have.
Strat wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:I don't have the problem with Ed's modern vocal style that everyone else seems to have.
Just quit being such a wuss about it.cutuphalfdead wrote:Brickwalling is one of the worst things for me because it doesn't just sound bad, but it physically hurts to listen to it after a while. To me, listening through a shitty bootleg recording is an entirely different animal.
That is a complete misunderstanding of the basic fundamentals of the argument at hand. It's like throwing a snowball to prove that global warming isn't real and therefore doesn't matter.Kevin Davis wrote:When listening to an album in full, I just set the volume where I like it and go, just like any other album.
And this is how I know you're just plain incorrect.cutuphalfdead wrote:The Woods would be a much better album if I could actually listen to it.
How does it feel to be wrong all the time?LoathedVermin72 wrote:And this is how I know you're just plain incorrect.cutuphalfdead wrote:The Woods would be a much better album if I could actually listen to it.
Well, that's a subjective reaction that I have never experienced at all. That album would not be the energetic noise bomb it is without all the clipping.tragabigzanda wrote:The first song on The Woods definitely benefits from being very loud, but by the third or fourth song it's pretty unlistenable. I can barely make it through Modern Girl and Entertain, which I think is the high point of the album, and have never made it to the end (after my first initial listens when the album cane out), 'coz my ears are dead.LoathedVermin72 wrote:...Except, you know, it can also totally shock an album (and listener) to life. Like The Woods. Sometimes clipping and boosted levels can make a noisy, aggressive album just that much more chaotic and pleasurable. It's rare, but it does happen. Sometimes discomfort is intended, and satisfying. You "hearing fatigue" people don't listen to a lot of metal, do you?
I feel like it's the first time I really agree with what you're saying.LoathedVermin72 wrote:And this is how I know you're just plain incorrect.cutuphalfdead wrote:The Woods would be a much better album if I could actually listen to it.
we are finally together in the sunchewm wrote:I feel like it's the first time I really agree with what you're saying.LoathedVermin72 wrote:And this is how I know you're just plain incorrect.cutuphalfdead wrote:The Woods would be a much better album if I could actually listen to it.
I really like how The Woods sounds, the album wouldn't be as great without the brickwalling.
I'm not quite there with you. An album with bad mastering is just a strike against it, but not a dealbreaker. I can think of some examples where brickwalling to the point of distortion is the point and can work aesthetically-- I dunno, the first one that comes to mind is Jay Reatard's Blood Visions, or the Flaming Lips' Embryonic-- and others where it's just the result of incompetent engineering, like Iggy Pop's mix of The Stooges' Raw Power. I can't understand how a human being with functioning ears could think that version of the album sounds good. Or, to bring it back to Pearl Jam, something like the intro to "Worldwide Suicide" which sounds like literal aural garbage.Birds in Hell wrote:Indeed, it's really nothing to do with volume - it's dynamics. And it's not simply the impact on the difference between loud and quiet sections of a piece of music, which is obvious, but what I'd guess you could call the micro-dynamics: drum hits, cymbals and guitars don't decay like they should and the overall effect is really unmusical. I can't get into the music because there's an odd disconnect going on where I'm aware that the drums don't quite sound like drums, etc.
It absolutely stops me listening to things, even music I really enjoy. I'd rather just listen to something else.
I would change everything about it. I would throw it out the window.tragabigzanda wrote:RHCP's By the Way is brickwalled, and I wouldn't change a thing about it.