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Re: Congress

Posted: Mon October 04, 2021 6:32 pm
by spike
Being a congresswoman in Arizona doesn’t exactly have the greatest safety record, yet Sinema still ran for office.

Re: Congress

Posted: Mon October 04, 2021 6:33 pm
by dad
spike wrote:Being a congresswoman in Arizona doesn’t exactly have the greatest safety record, yet Sinema still ran for office.
oof

Re: Congress

Posted: Mon October 04, 2021 6:36 pm
by Bi_3
spike wrote:Being a congresswoman in Arizona doesn’t exactly have the greatest safety record, yet Sinema still ran for office.

Plus, did you see how she was dressed?



Intimidation is a form of violence. It's assault.

Re: Congress

Posted: Mon October 04, 2021 6:41 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Congress

Posted: Mon October 04, 2021 7:13 pm
by Bi_3
tragabigzanda wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
spike wrote:Being a congresswoman in Arizona doesn’t exactly have the greatest safety record, yet Sinema still ran for office.

Plus, did you see how she was dressed?



Intimidation is a form of violence. It's assault.
JFC dude, the first sentence of the article says "EARLIER THIS WEEK more than twenty thousand people, many of them armed...", and goes on to cover a 2A demonstration. Show me where the bullets go in an iphone.

Intimidation is a form of violence. It's assault. And how, exactly, would Senator Sinema know those activists didn't have weapons or that they weren't going to hurt her for internet points with threats against elected officials now at record highs? It seems like you're looking at the outcome and assuming the parties had knowledge of the outcome through the entirety of the event instead of looking at the event as it unfolded (which is what that article is decrying the pro-gun news lobby for doing). What I saw in that video was a not well liked woman being chased into a bathroom by a group of harassers. That they did not end up physically hurting her does not make that ok.

Re: Congress

Posted: Mon October 04, 2021 7:20 pm
by spike
are public restrooms infrastructure

Re: Congress

Posted: Mon October 04, 2021 7:50 pm
by doug rr
spike wrote:are public restrooms infrastructure
ask bodysnatcher

Re: Congress

Posted: Mon October 04, 2021 9:39 pm
by B
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:One more try…

Pretend for a second you are woman who holds elected office. Just doing your job when a group of men comes into your place of work and starts yelling at you cause they don’t like your politics. They’ve got cameras out and are filming. No security guards around, just them and you. So you do the smart thing, find a way to get out the situation. You get up and walk down the hall towards the women’s room. They follow. They yell. They film. Now you enter the bathroom to hide. They follow you in, cameras rolling. What might a woman be thinking in that situation?
That the cameras and female protestor would probably keep her safe from the rape you seem to be implying?
Because cameras and female protesters like Ashley Babbit kept everyone safe on 06.Jan or during the BLM riots? And yes, intentionally creating a situation where the woman is vulnerable and fears for her safety is exactly what those people did to Senator Sinema and I hope that never happens to a woman you know or care about
Your in the right, but you opened yourself up to easy attack by trying to introduce gender into it. All public servants should be allowed to go to the bathroom and/or their homes without harassment.

Re: Congress

Posted: Mon October 04, 2021 11:56 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Congress

Posted: Tue October 05, 2021 12:56 pm
by Bi_3
B wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:One more try…

Pretend for a second you are woman who holds elected office. Just doing your job when a group of men comes into your place of work and starts yelling at you cause they don’t like your politics. They’ve got cameras out and are filming. No security guards around, just them and you. So you do the smart thing, find a way to get out the situation. You get up and walk down the hall towards the women’s room. They follow. They yell. They film. Now you enter the bathroom to hide. They follow you in, cameras rolling. What might a woman be thinking in that situation?
That the cameras and female protestor would probably keep her safe from the rape you seem to be implying?
Because cameras and female protesters like Ashley Babbit kept everyone safe on 06.Jan or during the BLM riots? And yes, intentionally creating a situation where the woman is vulnerable and fears for her safety is exactly what those people did to Senator Sinema and I hope that never happens to a woman you know or care about
Your in the right, but you opened yourself up to easy attack by trying to introduce gender into it. All public servants should be allowed to go to the bathroom and/or their homes without harassment.
Being harassed and chased by a group is different for women.

Re: Congress

Posted: Tue October 05, 2021 1:30 pm
by B
Bi_3 wrote:
B wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:One more try…

Pretend for a second you are woman who holds elected office. Just doing your job when a group of men comes into your place of work and starts yelling at you cause they don’t like your politics. They’ve got cameras out and are filming. No security guards around, just them and you. So you do the smart thing, find a way to get out the situation. You get up and walk down the hall towards the women’s room. They follow. They yell. They film. Now you enter the bathroom to hide. They follow you in, cameras rolling. What might a woman be thinking in that situation?
That the cameras and female protestor would probably keep her safe from the rape you seem to be implying?
Because cameras and female protesters like Ashley Babbit kept everyone safe on 06.Jan or during the BLM riots? And yes, intentionally creating a situation where the woman is vulnerable and fears for her safety is exactly what those people did to Senator Sinema and I hope that never happens to a woman you know or care about
Your in the right, but you opened yourself up to easy attack by trying to introduce gender into it. All public servants should be allowed to go to the bathroom and/or their homes without harassment.
Being harassed and chased by a group is different for women.
Why? Because they're weak and fragile?

Being harassed and chased by a group is wrong for all people. That's the line.

Or is it OK to sometimes follow men into the bathroom and harass them?

Re: Congress

Posted: Tue October 05, 2021 1:37 pm
by Bammer
I’m just loling over here because if this happened to AOC the reaction would be totally different from libs

Re: Congress

Posted: Tue October 05, 2021 1:53 pm
by Bi_3
B wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
B wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:One more try…

Pretend for a second you are woman who holds elected office. Just doing your job when a group of men comes into your place of work and starts yelling at you cause they don’t like your politics. They’ve got cameras out and are filming. No security guards around, just them and you. So you do the smart thing, find a way to get out the situation. You get up and walk down the hall towards the women’s room. They follow. They yell. They film. Now you enter the bathroom to hide. They follow you in, cameras rolling. What might a woman be thinking in that situation?
That the cameras and female protestor would probably keep her safe from the rape you seem to be implying?
Because cameras and female protesters like Ashley Babbit kept everyone safe on 06.Jan or during the BLM riots? And yes, intentionally creating a situation where the woman is vulnerable and fears for her safety is exactly what those people did to Senator Sinema and I hope that never happens to a woman you know or care about
Your in the right, but you opened yourself up to easy attack by trying to introduce gender into it. All public servants should be allowed to go to the bathroom and/or their homes without harassment.
Being harassed and chased by a group is different for women.
Why? Because they're weak and fragile?

Being harassed and chased by a group is wrong for all people. That's the line.

Or is it OK to sometimes follow men into the bathroom and harass them?

Because of how patriarchal cultures have treated women for all of recorded history? It’s not that doing it to women is more bad and men is less bad and I did not say that, no one should be made to feel unsafe in that manner, it’s that there is social context to the action that must be considered in understanding it’s effect on the victim.

Re: Congress

Posted: Tue October 05, 2021 2:16 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Congress

Posted: Tue October 05, 2021 2:27 pm
by BurtReynolds
God I loathe this elevation of safety to the sacred and absolute so much.

Re: Congress

Posted: Tue October 05, 2021 3:06 pm
by B
tragabigzanda wrote:So weird that you guys are making the public restroom some sort of sacred place. This is no different than a bunch of students chaining themselves to the uni president’s desk in the 1970s.
I'm not calling a public bathroom sacred space. I'm saying that people should be allowed to poop in peace.

They aren't following her into the bathroom because she's a woman. They're following her into the bathroom because she's fucking up the Country. They'd follow Manshin into the bathroom if they'dve found him.

Re: Congress

Posted: Tue October 05, 2021 3:10 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Congress

Posted: Tue October 05, 2021 3:16 pm
by BurtReynolds
No poop no peace!

Re: Congress

Posted: Tue October 05, 2021 3:26 pm
by Electromatic
So… what makes anyone believe that yelling and screaming at someone in the restroom is going to change that persons mind?

One of the major issues with culture right now is all the screaming. Volume doesn’t make much difference.

Hell, calm logic doesn’t make much difference either.

Sell the change that you want made to each audience in the appropriate manner.

Re: Congress

Posted: Tue October 05, 2021 3:34 pm
by BurtReynolds
What would make her change her mind?

The answer is darker than you think!