Red Mosquito

I did an interview with Alex Jones a year ago
Sayin' nothin' to nobody
Nevertheless my chops still gettin' busted
Accusing me of working on commission for Illuminati

durdencommatyler wrote:

B wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

B wrote:Man, it's hard to find out what IDW even stands for. What a joke.

"Intellectual Dark Web"

I think? I didn't know either but I think that's right. It wasn't that hard to Google, though.

Yeah, I eventually figured it out.

It's in urbandictionary, which, by the way, says AL stands for Anal Leak.

We should get Sarge to fix that.

His anal leak? It’s not really affected his posting.

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

B wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

B wrote:Man, it's hard to find out what IDW even stands for. What a joke.

"Intellectual Dark Web"

I think? I didn't know either but I think that's right. It wasn't that hard to Google, though.

Yeah, I eventually figured it out.

It's in urbandictionary, which, by the way, says AL stands for Anal Leak.

We should get Sarge to fix that.

His anal leak? It’s not really affected his posting.

AL

tree_ wrote:

Rob wrote:

Mickey wrote:Ben Shapiro and Sam Harris are both on the right on numerous issues, most notably the role of Western nations in the Middle East. Duh.

Sure, but Sam's old job usually consisted of taking down faux Rabbis like Shapiro.

On the topic of religion, Sam hasn't changed a bit. See, this is the problem with this perception that just because two people talk to one another, they are birds of a feather on EVERY ISSUE. Because Sam interviews Douglas Murray, he's perceived as a Douglas Murray fan or some shit. Ridiculous. And yeah, it's boring to hear this stuff and to talk about it, but it's really impossible to avoid it when you're being attacked.

My perception is not that they are birds of a feather. Like I said, they are not. They are united in their victim-hood. I'd be surprised if they agreed on anything else.

Ben Shapiro is hilarious

The Intellectual Derp Web exists mostly to present feeling put-upon by other people’s opinions and choices as an intelligent response.

McParadigm wrote:The Intellectual Derp Web exists mostly to present feeling put-upon by other people’s opinions and choices as an intelligent response.

"Why won't the darkies be quiet and amuse me to the detriment of their health and well-being?"

tree_ wrote:

Rob wrote:

Mickey wrote:Ben Shapiro and Sam Harris are both on the right on numerous issues, most notably the role of Western nations in the Middle East. Duh.

Sure, but Sam's old job usually consisted of taking down faux Rabbis like Shapiro.

On the topic of religion, Sam hasn't changed a bit. See, this is the problem with this perception that just because two people talk to one another, they are birds of a feather on EVERY ISSUE. Because Sam interviews Douglas Murray, he's perceived as a Douglas Murray fan or some shit. Ridiculous. And yeah, it's boring to hear this stuff and to talk about it, but it's really impossible to avoid it when you're being attacked.

Precisely, he is a right-winger about Islam. Of course they don't share every political belief, but it's not exactly a mystery why he and Shapiro go together on this.

Mickey wrote:

tree_ wrote:

Rob wrote:

Mickey wrote:Ben Shapiro and Sam Harris are both on the right on numerous issues, most notably the role of Western nations in the Middle East. Duh.

Sure, but Sam's old job usually consisted of taking down faux Rabbis like Shapiro.

On the topic of religion, Sam hasn't changed a bit. See, this is the problem with this perception that just because two people talk to one another, they are birds of a feather on EVERY ISSUE. Because Sam interviews Douglas Murray, he's perceived as a Douglas Murray fan or some shit. Ridiculous. And yeah, it's boring to hear this stuff and to talk about it, but it's really impossible to avoid it when you're being attacked.

Precisely, he is a right-winger about Islam. Of course they don't share every political belief, but it's not exactly a mystery why he and Shapiro go together on this.

He's only considered "right" in that the left has become too extreme and confused. Sam actually believes women shouldn't be forced into slavery. This should be the lefts view.

"He is only right-wing because the left is on the left" is a truly phenomenal sentence. Harris' mischaracterization and demonization of Islam has been widely documented.

"perceived" as right BY the far left because according to the far left you're a Nazi for thinking throwing gays off rooftops is wrong

Yeah we're done here.

Harris calls for Muslim reform so he's a Conservative shill

I'm reporting your post for being off-topic.

Mickey wrote:

tree_ wrote:

Rob wrote:

Mickey wrote:Ben Shapiro and Sam Harris are both on the right on numerous issues, most notably the role of Western nations in the Middle East. Duh.

Sure, but Sam's old job usually consisted of taking down faux Rabbis like Shapiro.

On the topic of religion, Sam hasn't changed a bit. See, this is the problem with this perception that just because two people talk to one another, they are birds of a feather on EVERY ISSUE. Because Sam interviews Douglas Murray, he's perceived as a Douglas Murray fan or some shit. Ridiculous. And yeah, it's boring to hear this stuff and to talk about it, but it's really impossible to avoid it when you're being attacked.

Precisely, he is a right-winger about Islam. Of course they don't share every political belief, but it's not exactly a mystery why he and Shapiro go together on this.

I admit I don't have a well thought out opinion on this, but is "right-winger" the right term here? Islamophobia/Anti-Muslim rhetoric is surely worse on the right, but not exclusive to it, right? To be clear, he has said some pretty crazy stuff about religion and especially Islam, but I don't really associated militant atheism with the right wing.

tree_ wrote:Harris calls for Muslim reform so he's a Conservative shill

Does he call for "Christian reform" too? Because it's not like Muslims have the market cornered on heinous shit done to people in the name of their religion.

Superblood Wolfmoon wrote:

tree_ wrote:Harris calls for Muslim reform so he's a Conservative shill

Does he call for "Christian reform" too? Because it's not like Muslims have the market cornered on heinous shit done to people in the name of their religion.

Yes, Harris criticizes all religions, but not all religions equally. As he puts it, if he were to burn the Qur'an on live TV, he would definitely need to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life, while The Book of Mormon play is celebrated by Mormons, and if he were to burn a Bible, odds are people would think he's an asshole but most likely wouldn't threaten his life. That's a problem and people are afraid to talk about it.

Rob wrote:

Mickey wrote:

tree_ wrote:

Rob wrote:

Mickey wrote:Ben Shapiro and Sam Harris are both on the right on numerous issues, most notably the role of Western nations in the Middle East. Duh.

Sure, but Sam's old job usually consisted of taking down faux Rabbis like Shapiro.

On the topic of religion, Sam hasn't changed a bit. See, this is the problem with this perception that just because two people talk to one another, they are birds of a feather on EVERY ISSUE. Because Sam interviews Douglas Murray, he's perceived as a Douglas Murray fan or some shit. Ridiculous. And yeah, it's boring to hear this stuff and to talk about it, but it's really impossible to avoid it when you're being attacked.

Precisely, he is a right-winger about Islam. Of course they don't share every political belief, but it's not exactly a mystery why he and Shapiro go together on this.

I admit I don't have a well thought out opinion on this, but is "right-winger" the right term here? Islamophobia/Anti-Muslim rhetoric is surely worse on the right, but not exclusive to it, right? To be clear, he has said some pretty crazy stuff about religion and especially Islam, but I don't really associated militant atheism with the right wing.

I agree that it's messy, especially in the case of someone like Hitchens, though you could also argue that most people have relatively incoherent value systems (which is why I tend to think of ideology not as a set of interlocking propositional creeds but a contingent articulation of one's relationship to the world). But I think think insofar as Harris reads Islam (incorrectly) as a particularly and intrinsically irrational, violent, and hateful religious creed antithetic to liberal western values, he is setting himself up as the defender of a militant, dogmatic version of Enlightenment humanism (one which has been rightly critiqued as racist by a number of scholars) against cultural pluralism, and thus is on the right vis a vis not only Islam itself but a number of connected issues, i.e. immigration, national identity, etc. That he does so without considering the specific geopolitical history of the Middle East which might induce or incentivize violence and radicalism under the cover/auspices of any religious creed bears a structural similarity to how the right things about historic injustices (though I would be open to the argument that plenty of liberals view the subject as divorced from localized histories as well--for instance, Saba Mahmood is very clear on the limits of a liberal fetishization of "autonomy"). And perhaps more broadly, "militant atheism," if it is not now associated with the right wing (as I think it increasingly should be, distinguished from the broader category of atheism), should at least be noted as having resonances with contemporary right movements which seek to police the categories of citizenship and reduce, rather than extend, the full rights of humanity to large swaths of the population based on ethnic or religious identity. As SBWM noted above, in general the New Atheist movement curiously focused more on the danger posed by the swarthy, foreign other than domestic Christian terrorism, so I think that does tell you something about where their beliefs sit in a global left-right matrix.

give me your tired, your poor and your bad apples

Strat wrote:Hey what do you guys think Burt is thinking right now.

Whatever revolutionary potential this movement had died the moment the Establishment successfully painted the far left/antifa types as "white supremacist agitators". They folded like a lawn chair the moment they were branded with the "R" word. It was a masterstroke, successfully reigning in their attack dog and shifting some of the blame to the right. The minorities and bourgeois liberals ate it up because its all they could do. That's why this alliances can never hold. Well done, elites.



- I was pretty stoked when they burned down the police station, but after that it devolved into looting TVs, beating up white people and tearing down "racist" monuments. Dumbasses, go burn down a bank or federal building lol.

- Now we are predictably settling into the impotent Occupy Wall Street Phase where some white people virtue signal on the internet and nothing really happens. It's all just spectacle. They've already been reduced to begging city leaders for permission to occupy city hall for an hour. lol. "Viva la revolución"!

- CHAZ has some potential for hilarity though.