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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 4:57 pm
by harmless
pnjguy wrote:
wilkins wrote:
harmless wrote:
wilkins wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
digster wrote:Did that 'Ed putting a uke song on the record' thing end up being unsubstantiated?
i think the same person who said there was a song called sirens is the one that said there would be a reworked uke song, so i still think it will be there
I'm going to be very disappointed if there's an Eddie Uke song on there. I'm also getting more worried this is going to be Backspacer-esque. Hearing Cold Conf(c)ession and knowing it and songs like it might have nothing do to with LB has me concerned. I almost liked it better when CC existed solely as an imaginary song title.
Why is the reworked uke song pissing everyone off so much? I genuinely don't get it.
We've waited 4 years for a new PEARL JAM record with new PEARL JAM songs, not an EV song from 13 years ago reworked.
A Pearl Jam song from 13 years ago is probably better than one that's made a year ago.
:thumbsup:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 4:59 pm
by pnjguy
harmless wrote:
pnjguy wrote:I think the whole recording process is getting a little too familiar.

Rent a mansion with Rick Rubin, smoke some pot, write songs together for a month and release it.
This idea is getting a little too familiar on the internet.
No, its fine.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 5:00 pm
by stip
harmless wrote:I've suddenly just had the horrible vision of 'Infallible' being a piece of shiny self-help / inspirational pop / pap, about beating the world's bad times and feeling awesome and appreciating music. I feel infallible yeah yeah yeah no one's gonna break me down.
you know this, of course, but that's really stretching what infallible means. It's a lot more likely to be an anti-religious/political rant than that.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 5:00 pm
by harmless
pnjguy wrote:
harmless wrote:
pnjguy wrote:I think the whole recording process is getting a little too familiar.

Rent a mansion with Rick Rubin, smoke some pot, write songs together for a month and release it.
This idea is getting a little too familiar on the internet.
No, its fine.
I just find it funny that the one thing in common with everyone's visions for the new album, is drugs.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 5:02 pm
by harmless
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:I've suddenly just had the horrible vision of 'Infallible' being a piece of shiny self-help / inspirational pop / pap, about beating the world's bad times and feeling awesome and appreciating music. I feel infallible yeah yeah yeah no one's gonna break me down.
you know this, of course, but that's really stretching what infallible means. It's a lot more likely to be an anti-religious/political rant than that.
Yeah, I just thought of that actually. Infallibility is one of God's attributes according to Christian doctrine, and certain religious leaders claim to be, or set themselves up to be, infallible (the Pope). I wouldn't mind if the song did that at all.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 5:03 pm
by wilkins
harmless wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
wilkins wrote:
harmless wrote:
wilkins wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
digster wrote:Did that 'Ed putting a uke song on the record' thing end up being unsubstantiated?
i think the same person who said there was a song called sirens is the one that said there would be a reworked uke song, so i still think it will be there
I'm going to be very disappointed if there's an Eddie Uke song on there. I'm also getting more worried this is going to be Backspacer-esque. Hearing Cold Conf(c)ession and knowing it and songs like it might have nothing do to with LB has me concerned. I almost liked it better when CC existed solely as an imaginary song title.
Why is the reworked uke song pissing everyone off so much? I genuinely don't get it.
We've waited 4 years for a new PEARL JAM record with new PEARL JAM songs, not an EV song from 13 years ago reworked.
A Pearl Jam song from 13 years ago is probably better than one that's made a year ago.
:thumbsup:
Edit: We've waited 4 years for a new PEARL JAM record with new* PEARL JAM songs, not an EV song from 13 years ago--that's already been released--reworked.
*new PJ songs can include old unused/unreleased PJ songs...

That's really what I was getting at anyway.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 5:08 pm
by pnjguy
harmless wrote:
pnjguy wrote:
harmless wrote:
pnjguy wrote:I think the whole recording process is getting a little too familiar.

Rent a mansion with Rick Rubin, smoke some pot, write songs together for a month and release it.
This idea is getting a little too familiar on the internet.
No, its fine.
I just find it funny that the one thing in common with everyone's visions for the new album, is drugs.
I just think a lot of people want a spacey, experimental album in it's entirety, and not a 15 second blurb in Life Wasted and say its experimental. Drugs may not be the answer, but i think it will help. But i don't think we'll ever see it.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 5:12 pm
by Tj
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Advertisement (Bad banner? Please let us know) in·fal·li·ble (n-fl-bl)
adj.
1. Incapable of erring: an infallible guide; an infallible source of information.
2. Incapable of failing; certain: an infallible antidote; an infallible rule.
3. Roman Catholic Church Incapable of error in expounding doctrine on faith or morals.
4 A song by the Americian rock band Pearl jam----------------------

[Middle English, from Medieval Latin nfallibilis : Latin in-, not; see in-1 + Medieval Latin fallibilis, fallible; see fallible.]

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in·falli·bili·ty, in·falli·ble·ness n.
in·falli·bly adv.
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infallible [ɪnˈfæləbəl]
adj
1. not fallible; not liable to error
2. not liable to failure; certain; sure an infallible cure
3. completely dependable or trustworthy
n
a person or thing that is incapable of error or failure
infallibility , infallibleness n
infallibly adv
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in•fal•li•ble (ɪnˈfæl ə bəl)

adj.
1. absolutely trustworthy or sure: an infallible rule.
2. unfailing in effectiveness or operation.
3. not fallible; exempt from liability to error, as persons, their judgment, or pronouncements.
4. (in Roman Catholicism) immune from fallacy or error in expounding matters of faith or morals.
n.
5. an infallible person or thing.
[1375–1425; late Middle English < Medieval Latin]
in•fal`li•bil′i•ty, n.
in•fal′li•bly, adv.
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Adj. 1. infallible - incapable of failure or error; "an infallible antidote"; "an infallible memory"; "the Catholic Church considers the Pope infallible"; "no doctor is infallible"
fallible - likely to fail or make errors; "everyone is fallible to some degree"
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infallible
adjective
1. perfect, impeccable, faultless, unerring, omniscient, unimpeachable She had an infallible eye for style.
perfect fallible, imperfect, human, errant
2. sure, certain, reliable, unbeatable, dependable, trustworthy, foolproof, sure-fire (informal), unfailing She hit on an infallible way of staying sober amid a flood of toasts.
sure unreliable, undependable, uncertain, doubtful, dubious, unsure
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infallible [ɪnˈfæləbl] ADJ (= unfailing) [remedy, method, punctuality] → infalible
she has the infallible knack of saying the wrong thing at the wrong time → no falla, siempre mete la pata en el momento más inoportunoCollins Spanish Dictionary - Complete and Unabridged 8th Edition 2005 © William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. 1971, 1988 © HarperCollins Publishers 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2003, 2005
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infallible [ɪnˈfælɪbəl] adj[person] → infaillible
to be infallible → être infaillible(= unerring) → infaillibleCollins English/French Electronic Resource. © HarperCollins Publishers 2005
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infallible adj → unfehlbar (also Eccl)Collins German Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged 7th Edition 2005. © William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. 1980 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1997, 1999, 2004, 2005, 2007
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infallible [ɪnˈfæləbl] adj → infallibileCollins Italian Dictionary 1st Edition © HarperCollins Publishers 1995
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infallible (inˈfӕləbl) adjective
1. (of a person or his judgement etc) never making a mistake. onfeilbaar مَعْصوم عن الخَطأ، مُنَزَّه мепогрешим infalível neomylný unfehlbar ufejlbarlig αλάνθαστος infalible eksimatu لغزش ناپذیر erehtymätön infaillible שֶׁאֵינוֹ שוֹגֶה अचूक, भ्रमामीत nepogrešiv csalhatatlan bebas kesalahan, sempurna óskeikull infallibile 間違いのない 잘못이 전혀 없는 neklystantis nekļūdīgs; nemaldīgs tak pernah salah onfeilbaar ufeilbarlig nieomylny قضاوت، نظريه، اټكل، دتشخيص ياتميزقوه infalível in­failibil безошибочный neomylný nezmotljiv nepogrešiv ofelbar, osviklig ซึ่งไม่มีข้อผิดพลาด yanılmaz, şaşmaz (人或其判斷)永不犯錯的 безпомилковий, непогрішимий خطا سے مبرّا luôn đúng 没有错误的
2. (of a remedy etc) always successful. infallible cures. onfeilbaar ناجِع، مُؤَكَّد النَّجاح безпогрешен infalível neselhávající unfehlbar ufejlbarlig; sikker σίγουρος, που πετυχαίνει πάντα infalible kindel خطا ناپذیر pettämätön infaillible בדוק अमोघ uspješan biztos selalu berhasil óbrigðull, áreiðanlegur infallibile 絶対確実な 확실한 tikras, patikimas drošs (par kādu līdzekli) selalu berjaya feilloos ufeilbarlig niezawodny بريالى infalível sigur надёжный spoľahlivý zanesljiv nepogrešiv osviklig, säker ได้ผลแน่นอน etkin, müessir (治療)絕對有效的 надійний, вірний جس میں غلطی کا امکان نہ ہو không thể hỏng 确实可靠的
inˌfalliˈbility noun
onfeilbaarheid عِصْمَة عن الخَطَأ безпогрешност infalibilidade neomylnost die Unfehlbarkeit ufejlbarlighed η ιδιότητα του να είναι κπ. ή κτ. αλάνθαστο(ς) infalibilidad eksimatus لغزش ناپذیری erehtymättömyys infaillibilité אִי-אֶפשָרוּת לִשגוֹת अमोघता nepogrešivost tévedhetetlenség, csal(atkoz)hatatlanság keharusan áreiðanleiki infallibilità 絶対確実 잘못이 없음 neklystamumas nekļūdīgums; nemaldīgums tidak membuat kesalahan onfeilbaarheid ufeilbarlighet nieomylność بریالیتوپ infalibilidade infailibilitate безошибочность; надёжность neomylnosť nezmotljivost nepogrešivost ofelbarhet ความไม่มีข้อผิดพลาด yanılmazlık, şaşmazlık 永不犯錯 непогрішимість لغزش سے برأت tính hoàn hảo 绝无错误
inˈfallibly adverb
onfeilbaar بِعصْمة عن الخَطأ، بنزاهَه непогрешимо infalivelmente spolehlivě unfehlbar ufejlbarligt αλάνθαστα infaliblemente eksimatult بطور لغزش ناپذیر erehtymättömästi infailliblement כְּמִי שֶאֵינוֹ טוֹעֶה לְעוֹלָם भ्रमातीत्व सिद्धांत nepogrešivo csalhatatlanul dengan manjur óhjákvæmilega, örugglega infallibilmente 絶対確実に 전혀 오류 없이 neklystamai nekļūdīgi; nemaldīgi dengan tidak pernah salah onfeilbaar, feilloos ufeilbarlig nieomylnie د بریالیتوب په دوله infalivelmente (în mod) infailibil, sigur безошибочно; надёжно spoľahlivo nezmotljivo nepogrešivo ofelbart อย่างไม่มีข้อผิดพลาด yanılmaksızın, şaşmadan 永不犯錯地 безпомилково; надійно بغیر غلطی کے một cách hoàn hảo 绝无错误地
Kernerman English Multilingual Dictionary © 2006-2013 K Dictionaries Ltd.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 5:30 pm
by super nintendo chalmers
pnjguy wrote:I think the whole recording process is getting a little too familiar.

Rent a mansion with Rick Rubin, smoke some pot, write songs together for a month and release it.


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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 5:37 pm
by harmless
BOB doesn't mention LB as one of the 5-minute+ songs, as it was live. Does that mean he's cut it down to 2 minutes?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 5:53 pm
by stip
he didn't mention much of anything about the album

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 5:56 pm
by harmless
True. I'm only speculating because he mentioned 'a couple' (I think?) which were longer, but LB wasn't one of them.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 6:04 pm
by Thejambi
harmless wrote:True. I'm only speculating because he mentioned 'a couple few ' (I think?) which were longer, but LB wasn't one of them.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 6:11 pm
by harmless
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:True. I'm only speculating because he mentioned 'a couple few ' (I think?) which were longer, but LB wasn't one of them.
:ohyeah!: :bammer:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 6:31 pm
by Thejambi
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:True. I'm only speculating because he mentioned 'a couple few ' (I think?) which were longer, but LB wasn't one of them.
:ohyeah!: :bammer:
:li:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 6:34 pm
by harmless
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:True. I'm only speculating because he mentioned 'a couple few ' (I think?) which were longer, but LB wasn't one of them.
:ohyeah!: :bammer:
:li:
I just want to hear Sirens. It's the only thing I want so much.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 6:35 pm
by Thejambi
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:True. I'm only speculating because he mentioned 'a couple few ' (I think?) which were longer, but LB wasn't one of them.
:ohyeah!: :bammer:
:li:
I just want to hear Sirens. It's the only thing I want so much.
Indeed. I haven't been this curious about a new PJ album since Binaural.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 6:35 pm
by Juvenal
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:True. I'm only speculating because he mentioned 'a couple few ' (I think?) which were longer, but LB wasn't one of them.
:ohyeah!: :bammer:
:li:
I just want to hear Sirens. It's the only thing I want so much.
*spank*

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 6:37 pm
by harmless
Juvenal wrote:
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:True. I'm only speculating because he mentioned 'a couple few ' (I think?) which were longer, but LB wasn't one of them.
:ohyeah!: :bammer:
:li:
I just want to hear Sirens. It's the only thing I want so much.
*spank*
:luv:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed July 31, 2013 6:47 pm
by Lament
pnjguy wrote:I think the whole recording process is getting a little too familiar.

Rent a mansion with Rick Rubin, smoke some pot, write songs together for a month and release it.
Fuck Rick Rubin.

James Murphy or bust.