Re: The Supreme Court
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 10:02 pm
FUCK ICE
Social Media: The God That Failedtragabigzanda wrote:well let's clarify: It seems to me like you think I have a problem with celebrities voicing their opinions on political issues. And while I do personally find that behavior kind of gross, that takes a backseat to my desire to see any voice of reason throw their hat in the ring on the abortion topic (ditto environmental).epilogue wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:epilogue wrote:Someone who doesn't deserve to have an opinion.as I said, you've completely missed the point
as I said, I promise you I haven't
As I made clear in my earlier post, my problem is that the democratic mechanism is basically nothing but this, a coastal elite outrage machine leveraging social media platforms in an effort to try to drive public opinion. It's a completely pitiful fight against a group of people who have pledged their very souls to a religious ideology that forbids abortion under any circumstances, and empowers them to believe they are actually doing their god's work, and has a much stronger political machine at their disposal towards that end.
Please tell me what I'm misunderstanding about your posts so we can move past this.
This is correct, and to expound on why, when Carter got zero SCOTUS appointees while Reagan and HW Bush got five, all replacing members of the Roe majority, everyone thought the precedent was doomed way back in the early 1990s. But O'Connor, Kennedy, and (especially) Souter went the other way, and they held the cards for another quarter century or so until the former two eventually ceded to Roe foes, and now it looks like time has run out.i got bugs wrote:Based off #2 it's shocking the decision hasn't been changed at any point there was turnover in sc judges
Eh, if you had five votes for this, you highly likely have at least five votes for the more standard 14th Amendment argument, whether it's the privacy based one Roe offered, or whether it's the Equal Protection Clause argument that Ginsburg strongly preferred.B wrote:Anyone think the 13th Amendment protects women from being forced to put their health and well-being at risk to carry a fetus to term that they do not wish to carry to term? Wouldn't that be involuntary servitude? I mean women die from childbirth in the US more often than in a lot of countries.
13th Amendment wrote:Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.[1]
so is it basically the 3 trump appointees replacing these three that is making the court sing this way?Green Habit wrote:This is correct, and to expound on why, when Carter got zero SCOTUS appointees while Reagan and HW Bush got five, all replacing members of the Roe majority, everyone thought the precedent was doomed way back in the early 1990s. But O'Connor, Kennedy, and (especially) Souter went the other way, and they held the cards for another quarter century or so until the former two eventually ceded to Roe foes, and now it looks like time has run out.i got bugs wrote:Based off #2 it's shocking the decision hasn't been changed at any point there was turnover in sc judges

Should that be my new username?tragabigzanda wrote:unbelievableepilogue wrote:I'm already past it.
Gilead here we comewarehouse wrote:when are they going to overturn loving v virginia? brown v board of ed?
seriously, is there a site to gamble on this stuff? if we're gonna go backwards i might as well profit off of this bullshit.
Unforgettableepilogue wrote:Should that be my new username?tragabigzanda wrote:unbelievableepilogue wrote:I'm already past it.
Praise be.E.H. Ruddock wrote:Gilead here we comewarehouse wrote:when are they going to overturn loving v virginia? brown v board of ed?
seriously, is there a site to gamble on this stuff? if we're gonna go backwards i might as well profit off of this bullshit.
whats the alternative? Seems to me you are saying the left is just screaming into the void and it doesnt fucking matter.tragabigzanda wrote:well let's clarify: It seems to me like you think I have a problem with celebrities voicing their opinions on political issues. And while I do personally find that behavior kind of gross, that takes a backseat to my desire to see any voice of reason throw their hat in the ring on the abortion topic (ditto environmental).epilogue wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:epilogue wrote:Someone who doesn't deserve to have an opinion.as I said, you've completely missed the point
as I said, I promise you I haven't
As I made clear in my earlier post, my problem is that the democratic mechanism is basically nothing but this, a coastal elite outrage machine leveraging social media platforms in an effort to try to drive public opinion. It's a completely pitiful fight against a group of people who have pledged their very souls to a religious ideology that forbids abortion under any circumstances, and empowers them to believe they are actually doing their god's work, and has a much stronger political machine at their disposal towards that end.
Please tell me what I'm misunderstanding about your posts so we can move past this.
Do you actually believe that conservatives want to revisit these decisions?E.H. Ruddock wrote:Gilead here we comewarehouse wrote:when are they going to overturn loving v virginia? brown v board of ed?
seriously, is there a site to gamble on this stuff? if we're gonna go backwards i might as well profit off of this bullshit.
Strat wrote:whats the alternative? Seems to me you are saying the left is just screaming into the void and it doesnt fucking matter.tragabigzanda wrote:well let's clarify: It seems to me like you think I have a problem with celebrities voicing their opinions on political issues. And while I do personally find that behavior kind of gross, that takes a backseat to my desire to see any voice of reason throw their hat in the ring on the abortion topic (ditto environmental).epilogue wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:epilogue wrote:Someone who doesn't deserve to have an opinion.as I said, you've completely missed the point
as I said, I promise you I haven't
As I made clear in my earlier post, my problem is that the democratic mechanism is basically nothing but this, a coastal elite outrage machine leveraging social media platforms in an effort to try to drive public opinion. It's a completely pitiful fight against a group of people who have pledged their very souls to a religious ideology that forbids abortion under any circumstances, and empowers them to believe they are actually doing their god's work, and has a much stronger political machine at their disposal towards that end.
Please tell me what I'm misunderstanding about your posts so we can move past this.
Which, i agree.
Social media is filled with all the same memes and posts and i just sit here thinking "who are you trying to fucking convince? we're all the same. you are preaching to the choir"
Nothing matters anymore. I give up.
yessimple schoolboy wrote:Do you actually believe that conservatives want to revisit these decisions?E.H. Ruddock wrote:Gilead here we comewarehouse wrote:when are they going to overturn loving v virginia? brown v board of ed?
seriously, is there a site to gamble on this stuff? if we're gonna go backwards i might as well profit off of this bullshit.
brown? no. loving? yessimple schoolboy wrote:Do you actually believe that conservatives want to revisit these decisions?E.H. Ruddock wrote:Gilead here we comewarehouse wrote:when are they going to overturn loving v virginia? brown v board of ed?
seriously, is there a site to gamble on this stuff? if we're gonna go backwards i might as well profit off of this bullshit.