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Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 10:02 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 10:07 pm
by simple schoolboy

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 10:10 pm
by epilogue
I'm already past it.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 10:17 pm
by spike
tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:Someone who doesn't deserve to have an opinion.
:haha: as I said, you've completely missed the point
:haha: as I said, I promise you I haven't
well let's clarify: It seems to me like you think I have a problem with celebrities voicing their opinions on political issues. And while I do personally find that behavior kind of gross, that takes a backseat to my desire to see any voice of reason throw their hat in the ring on the abortion topic (ditto environmental).

As I made clear in my earlier post, my problem is that the democratic mechanism is basically nothing but this, a coastal elite outrage machine leveraging social media platforms in an effort to try to drive public opinion. It's a completely pitiful fight against a group of people who have pledged their very souls to a religious ideology that forbids abortion under any circumstances, and empowers them to believe they are actually doing their god's work, and has a much stronger political machine at their disposal towards that end.

Please tell me what I'm misunderstanding about your posts so we can move past this.
Social Media: The God That Failed

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 10:22 pm
by epilogue
amen

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 10:24 pm
by spike
So what’s the next god, since they still have the god?

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 10:25 pm
by epilogue
NFTs

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 10:48 pm
by Green Habit
i got bugs wrote:Based off #2 it's shocking the decision hasn't been changed at any point there was turnover in sc judges
This is correct, and to expound on why, when Carter got zero SCOTUS appointees while Reagan and HW Bush got five, all replacing members of the Roe majority, everyone thought the precedent was doomed way back in the early 1990s. But O'Connor, Kennedy, and (especially) Souter went the other way, and they held the cards for another quarter century or so until the former two eventually ceded to Roe foes, and now it looks like time has run out.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 10:50 pm
by Green Habit
B wrote:Anyone think the 13th Amendment protects women from being forced to put their health and well-being at risk to carry a fetus to term that they do not wish to carry to term? Wouldn't that be involuntary servitude? I mean women die from childbirth in the US more often than in a lot of countries.
13th Amendment wrote:Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.[1]
Eh, if you had five votes for this, you highly likely have at least five votes for the more standard 14th Amendment argument, whether it's the privacy based one Roe offered, or whether it's the Equal Protection Clause argument that Ginsburg strongly preferred.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 12:18 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 12:25 am
by warehouse
Green Habit wrote:
i got bugs wrote:Based off #2 it's shocking the decision hasn't been changed at any point there was turnover in sc judges
This is correct, and to expound on why, when Carter got zero SCOTUS appointees while Reagan and HW Bush got five, all replacing members of the Roe majority, everyone thought the precedent was doomed way back in the early 1990s. But O'Connor, Kennedy, and (especially) Souter went the other way, and they held the cards for another quarter century or so until the former two eventually ceded to Roe foes, and now it looks like time has run out.
so is it basically the 3 trump appointees replacing these three that is making the court sing this way?

i only read the highlighted parts, but is roberts saying the 14th amendment only applies to rights when the amendment was passed?

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Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 1:07 am
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:I'm already past it.
unbelievable
Should that be my new username?

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 1:08 am
by E.H. Ruddock
warehouse wrote:when are they going to overturn loving v virginia? brown v board of ed?

seriously, is there a site to gamble on this stuff? if we're gonna go backwards i might as well profit off of this bullshit.
Gilead here we come

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 1:19 am
by wease
epilogue wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:I'm already past it.
unbelievable
Should that be my new username?
Unforgettable

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 1:32 am
by spike
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
warehouse wrote:when are they going to overturn loving v virginia? brown v board of ed?

seriously, is there a site to gamble on this stuff? if we're gonna go backwards i might as well profit off of this bullshit.
Gilead here we come
Praise be.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 2:45 am
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:Someone who doesn't deserve to have an opinion.
:haha: as I said, you've completely missed the point
:haha: as I said, I promise you I haven't
well let's clarify: It seems to me like you think I have a problem with celebrities voicing their opinions on political issues. And while I do personally find that behavior kind of gross, that takes a backseat to my desire to see any voice of reason throw their hat in the ring on the abortion topic (ditto environmental).

As I made clear in my earlier post, my problem is that the democratic mechanism is basically nothing but this, a coastal elite outrage machine leveraging social media platforms in an effort to try to drive public opinion. It's a completely pitiful fight against a group of people who have pledged their very souls to a religious ideology that forbids abortion under any circumstances, and empowers them to believe they are actually doing their god's work, and has a much stronger political machine at their disposal towards that end.

Please tell me what I'm misunderstanding about your posts so we can move past this.
whats the alternative? Seems to me you are saying the left is just screaming into the void and it doesnt fucking matter.

Which, i agree.

Social media is filled with all the same memes and posts and i just sit here thinking "who are you trying to fucking convince? we're all the same. you are preaching to the choir"

Nothing matters anymore. I give up.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 2:52 am
by simple schoolboy
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
warehouse wrote:when are they going to overturn loving v virginia? brown v board of ed?

seriously, is there a site to gamble on this stuff? if we're gonna go backwards i might as well profit off of this bullshit.
Gilead here we come
Do you actually believe that conservatives want to revisit these decisions?

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 2:58 am
by washing machine
Strat wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:Someone who doesn't deserve to have an opinion.
:haha: as I said, you've completely missed the point
:haha: as I said, I promise you I haven't
well let's clarify: It seems to me like you think I have a problem with celebrities voicing their opinions on political issues. And while I do personally find that behavior kind of gross, that takes a backseat to my desire to see any voice of reason throw their hat in the ring on the abortion topic (ditto environmental).

As I made clear in my earlier post, my problem is that the democratic mechanism is basically nothing but this, a coastal elite outrage machine leveraging social media platforms in an effort to try to drive public opinion. It's a completely pitiful fight against a group of people who have pledged their very souls to a religious ideology that forbids abortion under any circumstances, and empowers them to believe they are actually doing their god's work, and has a much stronger political machine at their disposal towards that end.

Please tell me what I'm misunderstanding about your posts so we can move past this.
whats the alternative? Seems to me you are saying the left is just screaming into the void and it doesnt fucking matter.

Which, i agree.

Social media is filled with all the same memes and posts and i just sit here thinking "who are you trying to fucking convince? we're all the same. you are preaching to the choir"

Nothing matters anymore. I give up.
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Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 11:56 am
by Peeps
simple schoolboy wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
warehouse wrote:when are they going to overturn loving v virginia? brown v board of ed?

seriously, is there a site to gamble on this stuff? if we're gonna go backwards i might as well profit off of this bullshit.
Gilead here we come
Do you actually believe that conservatives want to revisit these decisions?
yes

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 11:59 am
by warehouse
simple schoolboy wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
warehouse wrote:when are they going to overturn loving v virginia? brown v board of ed?

seriously, is there a site to gamble on this stuff? if we're gonna go backwards i might as well profit off of this bullshit.
Gilead here we come
Do you actually believe that conservatives want to revisit these decisions?
brown? no. loving? yes