Red Mosquito

Ms Harmless wrote:

dad wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Anders wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:all 12 vinyl variants contain music

These are just copies of the album. Which everyone that buys they vinyl variants will also buy.

maybe they'll only buy the album in this form, who knows? maybe it'll sound a little better on vinyl? I just don't care about this, even though I care about a lot of things, and I haven't been given a good reason to start caring; if they were selling 12 variants of Pearl Jam lounge curtains in partnership with IKEA, that would be weird

yeah, but the instructions to hang those curtains might be cool.

actually yeah if I owned a house I'd probably buy those curtains

Pretty sure you can already fill your house a thousand times over with merch.

Anders wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Anders wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Anders wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Anders wrote:Music

that's not an answer

You get music. It is the beast most fan friendly thing Pearl Jam has done, and a wonderful way of making money. See, I'm a capitalist.

so your problem is that the 12 vinyls are a bad way of making money? I think they're pretty colours, wheeee! colours go spinny! I am an artist

The 12 vinyls are not alone, they are part of a never ending stream of exclusives.

they are? where are they?

Now you're not even looking.

There are also exclusives on PearlJam.com:

https://shop.pearljam.com/products/pear ... 6213067966

https://shop.pearljam.com/products/pear ... nyl-single

oh you mean more music

no, you're right, I'm not looking, because I'm not buying them, because I don't care; is your problem that you're tempted but you can't afford them?

Anders wrote:Pearl Jam in London - Ticket Options
Sat Jun 29 2024 London, UK
Official face value from £125.00. Resale tickets from £113.85. Track Ticket Price History SET PRICE ALERT
Resale Pearl Jam London, Tottenham Hotspur New Stadium from £151.21 inc fees
Resale Pearl Jam London, Tottenham Hotspur Stadium from £200.53 inc fees

Anders wrote:Those are the most expensive ticket prices for a show I have ever seen.

for pearl jam, or from anyone?

This has been Pearl Jam's most expensive tour. Plenty of room for it to be higher and still sell these shows out. Fortunately they aren't

From anyone.

Ms Harmless wrote:

Anders wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Anders wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Anders wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Anders wrote:Music

that's not an answer

You get music. It is the beast most fan friendly thing Pearl Jam has done, and a wonderful way of making money. See, I'm a capitalist.

so your problem is that the 12 vinyls are a bad way of making money? I think they're pretty colours, wheeee! colours go spinny! I am an artist

The 12 vinyls are not alone, they are part of a never ending stream of exclusives.

they are? where are they?

Now you're not even looking.

There are also exclusives on PearlJam.com:

https://shop.pearljam.com/products/pear ... 6213067966

https://shop.pearljam.com/products/pear ... nyl-single

oh you mean more music

no, you're right, I'm not looking, because I'm not buying them, because I don't care; is your problem that you're tempted but you can't afford them?

Every post makes it seem you care.

I think the ticket prices are a bigger deal than the vinyls, but I can only afford one show a year anyway and it's not Pearl Jam

Anders wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Anders wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Anders wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Anders wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Anders wrote:Music

that's not an answer

You get music. It is the beast most fan friendly thing Pearl Jam has done, and a wonderful way of making money. See, I'm a capitalist.

so your problem is that the 12 vinyls are a bad way of making money? I think they're pretty colours, wheeee! colours go spinny! I am an artist

The 12 vinyls are not alone, they are part of a never ending stream of exclusives.

they are? where are they?

Now you're not even looking.

There are also exclusives on PearlJam.com:

https://shop.pearljam.com/products/pear ... 6213067966

https://shop.pearljam.com/products/pear ... nyl-single

oh you mean more music

no, you're right, I'm not looking, because I'm not buying them, because I don't care; is your problem that you're tempted but you can't afford them?

Every post makes it seem you care.

The vinyl industry has been running on fumes for at least 3 years. It's hard for younger acts to press vinyl because the processing plants are in overdrive largely due to legacy acts hogging resources to milk their fanbases dry, so smaller labels and independent artists struggle to meet demand. This sends already ridiculous prices soaring even higher.

I don't know how much they're pressing but 12 is a lot of variants. I hope they're responsible about it

Anders wrote:From anyone.

I think with just a little effort you can find vastly more expensive tickets.

There are 12 for the record stores, but there are at least 14 different ones, if not more.

Jorge wrote:The vinyl industry has been running on fumes for at least 3 years. It's hard for younger acts to press vinyl because the processing plants are in overdrive largely due to legacy acts hogging resources to milk their fanbases dry, so smaller labels and independent artists struggle to meet demand. This sends already ridiculous prices soaring even higher.

I don't know how much they're pressing but 12 is a lot of variants. I hope they're responsible about it

same.

That's interesting. I wonder why the industry isn't adding capacity.

stip wrote:

Anders wrote:From anyone.

I think with just a little effort you can find vastly more expensive tickets.

I'll have a look. I'm not talking about second hand tickets.

Anders wrote:There are 12 for the record stores, but there are at least 14 different ones, if not more.

all utterly inessential to general fandom and designed to appeal to a niche market that enjoys them. I mean I think one variant is too many, but I'm not a collector, and happily, like t-shirts and basketballs, all of this can be easily ignored by me IF THE BOARD WOULD STOP FUCKING BITCHING ABOUT THEM CONSTANTLY

(which is not just Anders. He's just the unfortunate soul who took it upon himself to respond to me)

stip wrote:

Jorge wrote:The vinyl industry has been running on fumes for at least 3 years. It's hard for younger acts to press vinyl because the processing plants are in overdrive largely due to legacy acts hogging resources to milk their fanbases dry, so smaller labels and independent artists struggle to meet demand. This sends already ridiculous prices soaring even higher.

I don't know how much they're pressing but 12 is a lot of variants. I hope they're responsible about it

same.

That's interesting. I wonder why the industry isn't adding capacity.

I appreciate the explanation Jorge

I do need to take responsibility for clicking on this thread, though

I appreciate this is a systemic issue that PJ are seemingly playing into here, I just don't think it's a "PJ issue"; they're not the first band to do this by a longshot

Taylor Swift fans must be spending a lot of money.

stip wrote:

Anders wrote:There are 12 for the record stores, but there are at least 14 different ones, if not more.

all utterly inessential to general fandom and designed to appeal to a niche market that enjoys them. I mean I think one variant is too many, but I'm not a collector, and happily, like t-shirts and basketballs, all of this can be easily ignored by me IF THE BOARD WOULD STOP FUCKING BITCHING ABOUT THEM CONSTANTLY

(which is not just Anders. He's just the unfortunate soul who took it upon himself to respond to me)

I will never stop bitching about Pearl Jam.

stip wrote:

Jorge wrote:The vinyl industry has been running on fumes for at least 3 years. It's hard for younger acts to press vinyl because the processing plants are in overdrive largely due to legacy acts hogging resources to milk their fanbases dry, so smaller labels and independent artists struggle to meet demand. This sends already ridiculous prices soaring even higher.

I don't know how much they're pressing but 12 is a lot of variants. I hope they're responsible about it

same.

That's interesting. I wonder why the industry isn't adding capacity.

I don't know. Maybe it's too much of an upfront cost. Jack White made a video recently from Third Man headquarters begging the record industry to create more vinyl processing plants because of how bad they were struggling.

This lack of resources also leads artists to turn to smaller / borderline bootleg vinyl operations that are low quality and results in noisy or otherwise defective pressings

Creating a situation where bigger acts end up getting the premium / nice sounding vinyl, while smaller acts are relegated to the cheap noisy stuff