Red Mosquito

Ms Harmless wrote:

RAG319 wrote:

Release_Me wrote:From someone at the Pit who attended the Listening Party today:

Maybe 200 people. I liked half the album. Wreckage. Fear  was great. Can't remember the fucking names now. It was so surreal im lost. I think wreckage sounded a bit like daughter i think

For someone there to say that is.....oof.

I just read that as "half of the album I still remember", not that the rest is bad

I don't see how one confuses liked with remember?

RAG319 wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

RAG319 wrote:

Release_Me wrote:From someone at the Pit who attended the Listening Party today:

Maybe 200 people. I liked half the album. Wreckage. Fear  was great. Can't remember the fucking names now. It was so surreal im lost. I think wreckage sounded a bit like daughter i think

For someone there to say that is.....oof.

I just read that as "half of the album I still remember", not that the rest is bad

I don't see how one confuses liked with remember?

"I know I liked half the album (the rest I'd need more time to sit with)"

but feel free to interpret it as "half the album sucks balls" if you want

Same guy: "I liked the first 2".

So that makes at least 3, including Wreckage, that he liked. I think the last couple and a few in the middle are songs that build, so probably takes a few listens to fully unwrap those.

Ed's quote about Taylor Swift concerts being comparable to punk rock has really bugged me the last few days, but I haven't formed very coherent thoughts about why.

I think it speaks to a kind of blinkered incuriosity that's common to people as they get older, where Ed's frame of reference for what's happening in the world is through the lens of what his kids are into, but it's particularly disappointing to see from an artist who should expect more from himself. I can't imagine Jeff saying anything that boneheaded.

The engaging of Watt on both Earthlings and this record seems kind of related to the same thing: a growing uncritical comfort with those chart-friendly pop sonics combined with a kind of disingenuous lack of acknowledgement that he's definitely chasing (or hoping for) greater commercial success through that approach.

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Birds in Hell wrote:Ed's quote about Taylor Swift concerts being comparable to punk rock has really bugged me the last few days, but I haven't formed very coherent thoughts about why.

I think it speaks to a kind of blinkered incuriosity that's common to people as they get older, where Ed's frame of reference for what's happening in the world is through the lens of what his kids are into, but it's particularly disappointing to see from an artist who should expect more from himself. I can't imagine Jeff saying anything that boneheaded.

The engaging of Watt on both Earthlings and this record seems kind of related to the same thing: a growing uncritical comfort with those chart-friendly pop sonics combined with a kind of disingenuous lack of acknowledgement that he's definitely chasing (or hoping for) greater commercial success through that approach.

stop it, it was cute

Birds in Hell wrote:Ed's quote about Taylor Swift concerts being comparable to punk rock has really bugged me the last few days,

What was the exact quote, do you know? I'm curious how he meant it. I really don't see the comparison

tragabigzanda wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:but feel free to interpret it as "half the album sucks balls" if you want

I really enjoyed writing that

seriously though, I'm English, we say a lot of things by implication

Birds in Hell wrote:Ed's quote about Taylor Swift concerts being comparable to punk rock has really bugged me the last few days, but I haven't formed very coherent thoughts about why.

I think it speaks to a kind of blinkered incuriosity that's common to people as they get older, where Ed's frame of reference for what's happening in the world is through the lens of what his kids are into, but it's particularly disappointing to see from an artist who should expect more from himself. I can't imagine Jeff saying anything that boneheaded.

The engaging of Watt on both Earthlings and this record seems kind of related to the same thing: a growing uncritical comfort with those chart-friendly pop sonics combined with a kind of disingenuous lack of acknowledgement that he's definitely chasing (or hoping for) greater commercial success through that approach.

This seems like quite the projection

Jorge wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:Ed's quote about Taylor Swift concerts being comparable to punk rock has really bugged me the last few days,

What was the exact quote, do you know? I'm curious how he meant it. I really don't see the comparison

he was talking about the camaraderie / community; he found the practise of passing around concert friendship bracelets to be similar to what he remembers with different bootlegged things, it wasn't this big artist's statement, it was just a dad being cute about his daughters' interests

Ms Harmless wrote:but feel free to interpret it as "half the album sucks balls" if you want

Now that's what I'm talkin' bout!

This thread is crazy. Someone should expose its inanity, maybe on a website somewhere.

oneway23 wrote:

Release_Me wrote:For anyone interested in following the discussion over at the Pit:

https://community.pearljam.com/discussi ... -matter/p7

Apparently Olivia was in the crowd and she cried when her Father called her a cunt during Something Special

Let's see that other website top this!

liebzz wrote:This thread is crazy. Someone should expose its inanity, maybe on a website somewhere.

it was you, wasn't it?

"I'll post more tomorrow but first half of the album is tremendous really heavy bit of a lull for a couple of songs then strong finish

Matt sounds brilliant "

UK crew needs to step up their review game. This is a poor showing so far.

I totally agree with what Ed said about the Swifties.

VinylGuy wrote:I totally agree with what Ed said about the Swifties.

me too

Swift (and Beyoncé, funnily enough) have both been able to build a following around them unlike most artists are able to now