Red Mosquito

RockPusher wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:"digitally simulated analog saturation"

is this dirty talk?

I'm starting to think trag is AI

RockPusher wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

liebzz wrote:The first single is gonna blow this place up. I can’t wait! I might be more interested in our reactions to it than the thing itself!

i can assure you that our reactions to it are always more interesting than the thing itself

I'm here to discuss the music, which is far more interesting than all the bloviations. Without the music, none of us are here.

Jorge wrote:First time I see cheugy used in that broader, chasing-relevancy meaning instead of specifically as a way for Gen Z to make fun of millennials

wease wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:This is gonna be a train wreck

I don't like this version of you

wease wrote: If only they could’ve gotten Albini to produce.

Albini is an awful choice for them. But I’m not sure what article you guys read, but the one I read yielded two key takeaways:

1. Bands that are over the hill and no longer functioning like a culturally relevant creative ensemble require fresh, outside perspective to get them back to a place of fruitful creativity and cultural import

2. Despite his bread being regularly buttered by Billboard, Andrew Wottman is a rock fan at heart, and we shouldn’t let his discography color our preconception of what he can bring to the table

These two ideas are diametrically opposed to one another.

And not for nothing, but when has a band working under the confines of #1, when paired with a hot producer, turned out a great record?

Beatles + Spector gave us the uneven Let It Be and then broke up

U2 + Danger Mouse = Songs of Innocence

RHCP + Danger Mouse = The Getaway

Aerosmith + Jack Douglas = Music From Another Dimension

Rolling Stones + Don Was = Voodoo Lounge

Metallica & Lou Reed + Hal Willner = Lulu

Pink Floyd + Bob Ezrin = A Momentary Lapse of Reason

Marianne Faithful + Hal Willner = Easy Come Easy Go

So much past glory rekindled on these albums!

Bruce Springsteen + Brendan O’Brien = The Rising

tragabigzanda wrote:

Coach wrote:Historically, the people who are "worried" at this point about the new album just aren't gonna like it.

My record indicates I'll be the first to admit when proven wrong. Show me an album without the aforementioned technical touchstones of a band grasping for relevancy and I will yield.

tragabigzanda wrote:

RockPusher wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:"digitally simulated analog saturation"

is this dirty talk?

I'm starting to think trag is AI

I'm talking about plugins like this all over everything:

stip wrote:

wease wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:This is gonna be a train wreck

I don't like this version of you

wease wrote: If only they could’ve gotten Albini to produce.

Albini is an awful choice for them. But I’m not sure what article you guys read, but the one I read yielded two key takeaways:

1. Bands that are over the hill and no longer functioning like a culturally relevant creative ensemble require fresh, outside perspective to get them back to a place of fruitful creativity and cultural import

2. Despite his bread being regularly buttered by Billboard, Andrew Wottman is a rock fan at heart, and we shouldn’t let his discography color our preconception of what he can bring to the table

These two ideas are diametrically opposed to one another.

And not for nothing, but when has a band working under the confines of #1, when paired with a hot producer, turned out a great record?

Beatles + Spector gave us the uneven Let It Be and then broke up

U2 + Danger Mouse = Songs of Innocence

RHCP + Danger Mouse = The Getaway

Aerosmith + Jack Douglas = Music From Another Dimension

Rolling Stones + Don Was = Voodoo Lounge

Metallica & Lou Reed + Hal Willner = Lulu

Pink Floyd + Bob Ezrin = A Momentary Lapse of Reason

Marianne Faithful + Hal Willner = Easy Come Easy Go

So much past glory rekindled on these albums!

Bruce Springsteen + Brendan O’Brien = The Rising

Past glory and cultural relevancy feel like two different things, at least to me. Relevancy seems like a play to be current, trendy, a part of the conversation. Past Glory (the less charitable way to talk about how Watt was being described) seemed more like helping bands understand what their enduring appeal is, a rediscovery of a core sound. Doing that (if done well) might be really appealing to the fanbase of that artist, but if Ten came out today there's no particular reason to think it would blow up the way it did since it's not chasing sounds or themes that resonant with what is important to younger audiences at this moment.

tragabigzanda wrote:

stip wrote:

wease wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Monkey_Driven wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:This is gonna be a train wreck

I don't like this version of you

wease wrote: If only they could’ve gotten Albini to produce.

Albini is an awful choice for them. But I’m not sure what article you guys read, but the one I read yielded two key takeaways:

1. Bands that are over the hill and no longer functioning like a culturally relevant creative ensemble require fresh, outside perspective to get them back to a place of fruitful creativity and cultural import

2. Despite his bread being regularly buttered by Billboard, Andrew Wottman is a rock fan at heart, and we shouldn’t let his discography color our preconception of what he can bring to the table

These two ideas are diametrically opposed to one another.

And not for nothing, but when has a band working under the confines of #1, when paired with a hot producer, turned out a great record?

Beatles + Spector gave us the uneven Let It Be and then broke up

U2 + Danger Mouse = Songs of Innocence

RHCP + Danger Mouse = The Getaway

Aerosmith + Jack Douglas = Music From Another Dimension

Rolling Stones + Don Was = Voodoo Lounge

Metallica & Lou Reed + Hal Willner = Lulu

Pink Floyd + Bob Ezrin = A Momentary Lapse of Reason

Marianne Faithful + Hal Willner = Easy Come Easy Go

So much past glory rekindled on these albums!

Bruce Springsteen + Brendan O’Brien = The Rising

Past glory and cultural relevancy feel like two different things, at least to me. Relevancy seems like a play to be current, trendy, a part of the conversation. Past Glory (the less charitable way to talk about how Watt was being described) seemed more like helping bands understand what their enduring appeal is, a rediscovery of a core sound. Doing that (if done well) might be really appealing to the fanbase of that artist, but if Ten came out today there's no particular reason to think it would blow up the way it did since it's not chasing sounds or themes that resonant with what is important to younger audiences at this moment.

There’s a lot right with this post.

I think part of my problem is that I just want them to replicate the Riot Act formula over and over: Good, collaborative songs from a band that sounds like they were in the same room together; no bells and whistles.

On the one hand it’s a perfectly reasonable expectation; on the other, it somehow feels like too much to hope for.

tragabigzanda wrote:I think part of my problem is that I just want them to replicate the Riot Act formula over and over: Good, collaborative songs from a band that sounds like they were in the same room together; no bells and whistles.

Birds in Hell wrote:It would've been interesting to see where that might've led.

Ms Harmless wrote:why are people assuming that this won't be a logical extension of Gigaton? is it just because of a new producer or is there more?

Strat wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:why are people assuming that this won't be a logical extension of Gigaton? is it just because of a new producer or is there more?

Because we are not well adjusted adults so we need to trash it before hand so as to not be disappointed and deal with our own sense of nostalgic loss.