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Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 3:47 pm
by BurtReynolds
they are one of the whitest bands I know. mostly grooveless. that's ok though.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 3:53 pm
by VinylGuy
BurtReynolds wrote:I've never felt that pj was a very groovy band.
They were...specially in 1993, 1994 and 1995...those years were pretty groovy.

They gained something from those years back at 2005.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 4:01 pm
by MemoFromTurner
BurtReynolds wrote:they are one of the whitest bands I know. mostly grooveless. that's ok though.
Rats, You Are, and BushLeaguer have a groove going on. Stone and Jeff like them some funk and rap. It's a white boy groove no doubt but it's there.

With the right DJ mix you could make the above songs work on the dance floor.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 4:05 pm
by Strat
That riff is so boring and generic and that video really emphasizes just how boring it is.

Luckily, for me, the finished puzzle is much more enjoyable to witness. I put that on Ed.....

Thanks for the fixin'

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 4:13 pm
by McParadigm
I find no fault with this song, and can point out several things about it that I like.

That said, I've listened to it exactly 4 times since I purchased it the day it became available, so that says a hell of a lot.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 4:13 pm
by BurtReynolds
VinylGuy wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I've never felt that pj was a very groovy band.
They were...specially in 1993, 1994 and 1995...those years were pretty groovy.

They gained something from those years back at 2005.
yeah somewhat. live at least. I read once that Tom Morello wanted to cover Animal. made me realize it's got a pretty solid groove to it, especially the demo.

I think ed steered them toward the abrasive punk thing, though, so the groove was squashed.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 4:15 pm
by Strat
BurtReynolds wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I've never felt that pj was a very groovy band.
They were...specially in 1993, 1994 and 1995...those years were pretty groovy.

They gained something from those years back at 2005.
yeah somewhat. live at least. I read once that Tom Morello wanted to cover Animal. made me realize it's got a pretty solid groove to it, especially the demo.

I think ed steered them toward the abrasive punk thing, though, so the groove was squashed.

In hopes that Dave A could never weasel is way back into the band!

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 5:09 pm
by harmless
melonhead4 wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I've never felt that pj was a very groovy band.
Ten is groovy as all hell.
VS is also groovy/funky
Yup. Vitalogy and No Code in spots too. Tremor Christ is groovy, Who You Are etc.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 5:10 pm
by EJ
Rock Around Barack might make a few people want to shake their asses.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 5:11 pm
by harmless
BurtReynolds wrote:they are one of the whitest bands I know. mostly grooveless. that's ok though.
I don't think groove precludes white skin, it just precludes an unimaginative drummer.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 5:12 pm
by harmless
theplatypus wrote:I couldn't care less about the "groove", as long as the songs are good. Some of my favorite Pearl Jam songs are utterly grooveless.
I didn't say I *only* like groovy Pearl Jam. Thumbing My Way isn't the most groovy PJ song ever but I love it.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 5:29 pm
by epilogue
This song is still in very heavy rotation 'round my place. I love it. I get excited every time it comes on.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 8:34 pm
by LetMeSleep
melonhead4 wrote:They lost alot of groove when Dave A left.....
:thumbsup: Dave A had that groovy bounce. His right foot should be in the Hall of Fame.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 8:39 pm
by Thejambi
Stone riffs were also a strong source of the groove. Those also diminished.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 8:40 pm
by McParadigm


white people groove
i dunno man

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 8:41 pm
by LetMeSleep
Thejambi wrote:Stone riffs were also a strong source of the groove. Those also diminished.
Dave A and Stone locked in so well. Add Jeff to that mix too. Mike could just flail about over the top.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 8:41 pm
by harmless
McParadigm wrote:

white people groove
i dunno man
Interesting song you chose to contest the concept.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 8:43 pm
by Thejambi
harmless wrote:
McParadigm wrote:

white people groove
i dunno man
Interesting song you chose to contest the concept.
Compare DTE studio with early Matt live versions. That will show it well.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 8:46 pm
by harmless
If you wanted a Sting song to show white man's groove (post-The Police), you could do worse than 'Seven Days'.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Tue July 30, 2013 8:48 pm
by McParadigm
harmless wrote:If you wanted a Sting song to show white man's groove (post-The Police), you could do worse than 'Seven Days'.
Does the video provide the same "holy shit, did anybody even watch this thing before airing it?" disaster quality?

Because, if not, then it's just another Sting song and who cares