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Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu December 14, 2023 1:04 pm
by stip
Ms Harmless wrote:
Tj wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Tj wrote:Why Can't You See. Remember some rumors could be true.
Wheye*
Not so much this . Well I probably shouldn't but I will do a little leaking. The lyrics as i remember.


Ruling a fortress invested in please
Not so much to believe
A scape goat need not be tethered
When the flock has been scattered ewww
Eeeee
Why Can't you see oh oh heee
Left eye shut right eye blind
Left to protect .you chase your tail
Round and round .
Pride in the grass.
Whiskers to the wind.
Why Can't you see
This is all really remember
why is "pride in the grass" the funniest line here?
there’s a workable metaphor here

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu December 14, 2023 2:48 pm
by Farmer John
Whiskers to the wind, baby!

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu December 14, 2023 3:25 pm
by Coach
I loved the Earthlings album so I think I'll like the new PJ too.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu December 14, 2023 4:19 pm
by Fattie_Vedder
Farmer John wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:I actually think the music could be very good, but it will undoubtedly sound like ass
That's where I am right now too.
This is where I’m at too. I love what I’m reading about Watt lighting fires under butts, getting them to play and compose together more, helping them play to their strengths, distilling down the elements to their unique strengths, etc. But if “heavy” ends up sounding like “Good and Evil” on Earthlings… barf.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu December 14, 2023 4:33 pm
by Ms Harmless
Coach wrote:I loved the Earthlings album so I think I'll like the new PJ too.
I do too, mostly; it would be nice to have a slightly rawer version and no "The Haves" though, if I'm being picky

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu December 14, 2023 6:11 pm
by Buby
Ms Harmless wrote:
Coach wrote:I loved the Earthlings album so I think I'll like the new PJ too.
I do too, mostly; it would be nice to have a slightly rawer version and no "The Haves" though, if I'm being picky
Ditto. "The Haves" is impossible to defend.
That 3 track run with "Brother the Cloud" -> "Fallout Today" -> "The Dark" is pretty solid.
That and "Try" is definitely my favorite.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu December 14, 2023 6:14 pm
by Tj
While not a big fan of Gigaton. I will say that 1-3 are fantastic really brilliant. Alright and Buckle Up are the best sounding songs from a production standpoint. Gigaton's biggest flaw is when Ed's delivery is bad it derails a few songs with great potential River Cross and Quick Escape.
Earthling's production is not great from a sound place, however it's not offensive . I would guess Andrew pushed Ed on these songs and got alot out of him. My point being with out Andy may we get a much more predictable Earthling album. .
I think Jeff and Stone maybe could be the push back that is needed as far as sound goes. They probably haven't pushed back on Brendan in years.
We still don't know who the sound engineer is could be Josh Evans let's hope.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu December 14, 2023 6:21 pm
by Buby
Tj wrote: We still don't know who the sound engineer is could be Josh Evans let's hope.
THIS. :ohyeah!:

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu December 14, 2023 6:28 pm
by tragabigzanda
Buby wrote:
Tj wrote: We still don't know who the sound engineer is could be Josh Evans let's hope.
THIS. :ohyeah!:
I just don't think it matters if the mix engineer is Serban Ghenea

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu December 14, 2023 6:43 pm
by dad
tragabigzanda wrote:
Buby wrote:
Tj wrote: We still don't know who the sound engineer is could be Josh Evans let's hope.
THIS. :ohyeah!:
I just don't think it matters if the mix engineer is Serban Ghenea
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Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu December 14, 2023 7:18 pm
by Farmer John
I don't know who this Serban Ghenea character is, but they need to be "taken care of".

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Thu December 14, 2023 7:23 pm
by tragabigzanda
Farmer John wrote:I don't know who this Serban Ghenea character is, but they need to be "taken care of".
He's the guy who most often mixes Wotman's projects, including Earthling.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Fri December 15, 2023 2:31 am
by 96583UP
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:I actually think the music could be very good, but it will undoubtedly sound like ass
That's where I am right now too.
could make for a good live show, though, once they break free from Wotman's clutches

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Fri December 15, 2023 2:31 am
by 96583UP
when was the last time we heard a new album song that was better live than on the album

this could be the one

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Fri December 15, 2023 3:02 am
by tragabigzanda
Probably Half Full was the last time a live version totally reframed the album track for me

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Fri December 15, 2023 3:10 am
by 96583UP
that version they played in Austin hit the spot

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Fri December 15, 2023 5:11 am
by Birds in Hell
Many of the S/T songs grew new legs live.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Fri December 15, 2023 6:35 am
by sweeper
96583UP wrote:when was the last time we heard a new album song that was better live than on the album

this could be the one
The Fixer soundcheck.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Fri December 15, 2023 7:53 am
by BootsToAsses
tragabigzanda wrote:Probably Half Full was the last time a live version totally reframed the album track for me
It's weird that the album version has no groove at all for me. It feels like it stutters and sounds a bit lifeless, and I used to always skip it.
They absolutely nail it live, though. Those 2006 versions are killer, the highlight of the Paris gig for me.

Getting it in Budapest last year was a lovely surprise and it destroyed.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Posted: Fri December 15, 2023 8:50 am
by Got Some
96583UP wrote:when was the last time we heard a new album song that was better live than on the album

this could be the one
Lightning Bolt
Infallible
Seven O’clock
Never Destination
Got Some
Unthought Known