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Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 11:06 am
by dimejinky99
Nothing is being learned. Nothing is getting through. Nothing
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 11:11 am
by Simple Torture
dimejinky99 wrote:Nothing is being learned. Nothing is getting through. Nothing
"NBC News reports that the police released the video this week, which was taken on
May 20, 2019."
Never change, dime.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 11:12 am
by LetMeSleep
dimejinky99 wrote:Nothing is being learned. Nothing is getting through. Nothing
The Oklahoma City Police Department this week released video of the arrest of a black man last year in which he can be seen pinned on the ground, saying, “I can’t breathe,” and an officer replies, “I don’t care.” The man died in custody shortly afterward.
The man, Derrick Scott, 42, was arrested on
May 20, 2019
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 11:12 am
by LetMeSleep
damn.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 12:07 pm
by Peeps
i understand that police for big cities require a lot of man hours and need to fill those positions but dont some of these numbers seem high
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 12:07 pm
by Peeps
grrr
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 12:14 pm
by Bi_3
Peeps wrote:Peeps wrote:i understand that police for big cities require a lot of man hours and need to fill those positions but dont some of these numbers seem high
It’s tricky, the Oakland number at least is 42% of 40% (what the city’s general fund covers) which makes the depiction above misleading as not all general funds across all cities cover the same services. It works out to about $140k per police dept employee, so when you factor in everything from training to equipment and Insurance and healthcare and the cost of living it’s not that bad. Education employees come in around $100k per.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 12:20 pm
by dimejinky99
Simple Torture wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:Nothing is being learned. Nothing is getting through. Nothing
"NBC News reports that the police released the video this week, which was taken on
May 20, 2019."
Never change, dime.
The point is the same. They’ve always done this. And it’s seems policy to both do it and ignore it.
That’s a systemic failure even if the guy got fired.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 1:54 pm
by B
This is from a recent budget by my town. I probably would tweak some stuff if I really looked at it, but it doesn't really bother me to spend 14% of the budget on policing.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 2:58 pm
by Rob
B wrote:This is from a recent budget by my town. I probably would tweak some stuff if I really looked at it, but it doesn't really bother me to spend 14% of the budget on policing.
I must be missing something but does your town have schools?
This is what my town looks like:
Expenditures Budget Percentage
General Government:
Admin & Finance $ 13,520,312 11.84%
Planning & Development 542,148 0.48%
Public Safety 7,512,090 6.58%
Public Works 6,531,154 5.72%
Public Health 520,048 0.46%
Social Services 980,191 0.86%
Cultural Services 2,059,320 1.80%
Leisure Services 986,856 0.86%
Contingency 125,000 0.11%
Debt Service 6,640,186 5.82%
Dept of Education 73,356,511 64.26%
Teacher Pension Assessment 284,061 0.25%
Cap. Non-Recurring 1,100,000 0.96%
Total $ 114,157,877 100.00%
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 4:16 pm
by Bi_3
Rob wrote:B wrote:This is from a recent budget by my town. I probably would tweak some stuff if I really looked at it, but it doesn't really bother me to spend 14% of the budget on policing.
I must be missing something but does your town have schools?
This is what my town looks like:
Expenditures Budget Percentage
General Government:
Admin & Finance $ 13,520,312 11.84%
Planning & Development 542,148 0.48%
Public Safety 7,512,090 6.58%
Public Works 6,531,154 5.72%
Public Health 520,048 0.46%
Social Services 980,191 0.86%
Cultural Services 2,059,320 1.80%
Leisure Services 986,856 0.86%
Contingency 125,000 0.11%
Debt Service 6,640,186 5.82%
Dept of Education 73,356,511 64.26%
Teacher Pension Assessment 284,061 0.25%
Cap. Non-Recurring 1,100,000 0.96%
Total $ 114,157,877 100.00%
This is why the original graphic was pretty misleading, every budget is chopped up and named differently.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 4:20 pm
by Rob
Bi_3 wrote:
This is why the original graphic was pretty misleading, every budget is chopped up and named differently.
Right, but the only possible places in that graphic for schools are general gov't (13%) or other (4%). Was just wondering, maybe theirs is a county level thing.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 4:21 pm
by bart
Schools are not usually town or city funded in the south
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 4:21 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
welcome back
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 4:25 pm
by bart
I just can’t let a factoid about municipal governance go unstated
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 4:26 pm
by Mickey
bart wrote:I just can’t let a factoid about municipal governance go unstated
Factoid means fake fact.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 4:29 pm
by bart
Or a trivial piece of info
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 4:33 pm
by Mickey
I don't think education funding is trivial.
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 4:36 pm
by bart
lol
Re: Cops Are The Worst
Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 4:36 pm
by Bi_3
Mickey wrote:I don't think education funding is trivial.
The school system in my county has a budget larger than the GDP of Bhutan, so for the 17th time today we agree.