That seems to be how foreign policy plays out. Presidents become their opponents.
McCain said we would be in Iraq for 100 years, or else bad things would happen, and Obama laughed at him. Pres Obama never left Iraq. Bad things happened when he drew down there. We will be in Iraq for 100 years.
Romney said Russia was our number one geopolitical foe, and Obama laughed at him. Putin invaded Ukraine and meddled in the 2016 election. Pres Obama dropped some sanctions on Russia and Russia is a foe.
Clinton called for a no-fly zone and a more robust response in Syria. Trump apparently didn't agree with that. Pres Trump is bombing Assad and I bet a no-fly zone will be announced very soon.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 07, 2017 3:44 am
by McParadigm
I think Scott Adams actually thinks the gas attack was a hoax
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 07, 2017 3:48 am
by McParadigm
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 07, 2017 4:50 am
by BurtReynolds
McParadigm wrote:I think Scott Adams actually thinks the gas attack was a hoax
Define hoax.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 07, 2017 7:22 am
by dimejinky99
Gas attack is a rather convenient event in timing.
'Russia probe? Hey look over there! Syrians are being attacked with gas! Look over there!
What Russia probe?'
It was probably Russia dropped the gas
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 07, 2017 7:33 am
by BurtReynolds
The usual suspects:
ISIS: great way to shake things up. Turn the two sides who are currently exterminating you against each other. 3:1
Russia: I dunno why. Oh yeah, Ruskies are naturally evil. 10:1
Trump: Ratings boost for The Apprentice: Syria I guess? Approval ratingz. 10:1
Israel: Why not? 20:1
Neolibs/Neocons: Screaming for war forever. History of doing this kinda shit. Still looking for WMDs in Iraq. 5:1
Assad: Already winning, finally secure after barely surviving for years. Randomly decides to commit a war crime for some reason. 100:1
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 07, 2017 8:29 am
by BurtReynolds
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 07, 2017 10:14 am
by Bi_3
BurtReynolds wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I think Scott Adams actually thinks the gas attack was a hoax
Define hoax.
Pretty sure this actually happened.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 07, 2017 10:18 am
by Bi_3
BurtReynolds wrote:The usual suspects:
ISIS: great way to shake things up. Turn the two sides who are currently exterminating you against each other. 3:1
Russia: I dunno why. Oh yeah, Ruskies are naturally evil. 10:1
Trump: Ratings boost for The Apprentice: Syria I guess? Approval ratingz. 10:1
Israel: Why not? 20:1
Neolibs/Neocons: Screaming for war forever. History of doing this kinda shit. Still looking for WMDs in Iraq. 5:1
Assad: Already winning, finally secure after barely surviving for years. Randomly decides to commit a war crime for some reason. 100:1
Seriously, though. If this actually stops w/o tailspinning into WW3, it's going to be a hard action to criticize.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 07, 2017 1:08 pm
by McParadigm
BurtReynolds wrote:The usual suspects:
ISIS: great way to shake things up. Turn the two sides who are currently exterminating you against each other. 3:1
Russia: I dunno why. Oh yeah, Ruskies are naturally evil. 10:1
Trump: Ratings boost for The Apprentice: Syria I guess? Approval ratingz. 10:1
Israel: Why not? 20:1
Neolibs/Neocons: Screaming for war forever. History of doing this kinda shit. Still looking for WMDs in Iraq. 5:1
Assad: Already winning, finally secure after barely surviving for years. Randomly decides to commit a war crime for some reason. 100:1
dimejinky99 wrote:Man I'd say ed I'd piiiiissed.
Letterman though?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 07, 2017 1:13 pm
by McParadigm
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 07, 2017 2:29 pm
by wease
McParadigm wrote:
And it begins...
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 07, 2017 3:57 pm
by Bi_3
wease wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
And it begins...
Good thing Trump is Putins bitch or this might get out of control.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 07, 2017 5:49 pm
by McParadigm
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 07, 2017 7:23 pm
by jwfocker
Bi_3 wrote:
wease wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
And it begins...
Good thing Trump is Putins bitch or this might get out of control.
Yep. You got it all figured out. I'm sure it wasn't a orchestrated attack or anything like that. That's why the airstrip is already in use again and why Syrian and Russian forces were warned of the attack.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri April 07, 2017 9:29 pm
by Bi_3
B wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Seriously, though. If this actually stops w/o tailspinning into WW3, it's going to be a hard action to criticize.
It easy to criticize. Investigations into the use of banned weapons take years, even with unrelenting mudslides of evidence. This screams "how do I look stronger than Obama to distract from my abject failure of leadership so far while not actually doing anything of real consequence?"