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Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Sun November 10, 2024 2:43 pm
by BurtReynolds
I think a presidential candidate blowing through $1.2 billion and losing badly is somewhat newsworthy.

Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Sun November 10, 2024 2:46 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Sun November 10, 2024 3:57 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Mon November 11, 2024 10:04 pm
by BurtReynolds
The "Joe could have won" crowd needs to be quiet for a little while.

Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Mon November 11, 2024 10:31 pm
by Tj
I really am having a hard time understanding the Dems right now. These are my problems.
1. The right for long before the first debate raised valid questions about Biden's fitness for office.
The Dems response nothing to see here he is better than ever etc.
Then the debate. The right we told you so! Whispers from the left . Biden's team we are all good. Fast forward 15min Pelosi Shummer Clooney, Biden needs to step aside. Remember a Dem I can't remember tried to primary Biden. No way they said. Bidens our man ok now he's not. Ok he's out. So a primary. Nope no primary ok no time so surely a broakered convention. Nope we think Kamala . Kamala? The first looser of 2020. The Kamala that called Biden a racist. The Kamala that got owned by Gabbard in a debate 4 years ago. Yep that one! Ok then that's fine anyone can beat Trump right? That's right. Ok so we won't have a candidate that was democratically given the nomination. Then we will talk at nauseum about a threat to democracy fascism. Oh don't forget he's orange. Your rights will be stripped it will be a slave state . It must not be allowed.
Oh shit he won. Oh well always next time. Surely they will flee they are about to be ruled by the next Hitler.

Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Mon November 11, 2024 10:31 pm
by Tj
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Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Mon November 11, 2024 10:32 pm
by spike
lol okey

Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Mon November 11, 2024 10:59 pm
by washing machine
Maybe cool down the culture wars?

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There are, after all, plenty of degreeless Americans who like to have sex with people whose genitals match their own. And indeed, survey data suggest that the general population, including the Republican part of it, is more socially liberal on questions of race and sexual orientation than it was a decade ago. But there is the sort of social liberalism that is summed up by the phrase live and let live, and there is the sort summed up by a middle manager briskly strolling into a room, dropping a six-pound tome on the table, and announcing: Here are the new rules. We will email you the updates each Tuesday. To a lot of people outside that college-educated tome-dropper's social class, including some of the people the fat rulebook is theoretically there to help, that second approach looks more like micromanagement than liberation. The more Democrats are associated with it, the worse for them—and the worse for the buried live-and-let-live cause.
Needless to say, knowledge-class Republicans have countless ways to alienate people too. The number of Americans interested in listening to the ramblings of an anti-trans obsessive probably isn't much larger than the number interested in listening to a lecture on how to make punctuation more inclusive. But after years of keeping culturally or economically conservative minorities pent up in their party, the Democrats currently have more to lose.

Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Mon November 11, 2024 11:45 pm
by spike
the election is lost, midterms are two years off. i'd say it's time to double down on it, as it'll ring louder amidst the hate speech trump's election has already begun to amplify.

"the general population, including the Republican part of it, is more socially liberal on questions of race and sexual orientation than it was a decade ago" didn't happen by accident.

Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Tue November 12, 2024 12:09 am
by washing machine
I'd be willing to wager a mint condition, never used 2005 Coexist sticker that society has become more liberal on social issues despite the social mandating of the woke-scold set.

Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Tue November 12, 2024 12:14 am
by BurtReynolds
spike wrote:the election is lost, midterms are two years off. i'd say it's time to double down on it...
Oh God please do this. I am in 100% agreement that this is the best way to go.

Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Tue November 12, 2024 12:20 am
by 96583UP
so many words in this thread i can't understand

all you needed to say was 'inflation'

Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Tue November 12, 2024 12:40 am
by BurtReynolds

Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Tue November 12, 2024 2:09 pm
by tree_

Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Tue November 12, 2024 2:16 pm
by Bi_3
tree_ wrote:


I hinted at this in the trans rights thread, Sam Harris is not the first person to come that conclusion about Elon.

Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Tue November 12, 2024 2:27 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Tue November 12, 2024 2:35 pm
by tree_
tragabigzanda wrote:Don’t have time to watch, what’s the tldr?
Democratic moral confusion cost them the election

Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Tue November 12, 2024 2:56 pm
by Bi_3
Once again, self-loathing over-educated urban whites are the moving against everyone else.


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Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Tue November 12, 2024 3:49 pm
by BurtReynolds
tragabigzanda wrote:Don’t have time to watch, what’s the tldr?
" So, to return to my hobby horse, I think there are some lessons that the Democrats really must absorb from what is undeniably a total political defeat. They simply must recognize that several planks of their platform are thoroughly rotten.

Identity politics is over. No one wants it. Latinos and blacks don't even want it, as witnessed by the fact that they moved to Trump in record numbers. Trump got a majority of Latino men nationwide, and in some counties he got a majority of Latino men and women, even with all that he has said about immigrants from Latin America over the years—like that “they're poisoning the blood of our people,” which is straight out of Mein Kampf. A comedian called Puerto Rico “a pile of garbage” at a Trump rally, and the entire democratic machine, and all of liberal media, seized upon it, as though a nuclear bomb had just vaporized an American city, and no one cared.

Identity politics is dead, and we have to bury it.

There's one species of identity politics that had an enormous effect on this election, and most Democrats don't seem to realize it: Around half a percent of American adults identify as transgender or non-binary—that's 1 in 200 people. And yet the activism around this identity has deranged our politics for as long as Trump has been in politics. One lesson that I would be quick to draw from this election is that Americans aren't really fond of seeing biological men punch women in the face at the Olympics.1 And if that sounds like transphobia to you—you're the problem. Political equality, which we should want for everyone, does not mean that “trans women are women.”

Trans women are people and should have all the political freedom of people. But to say that they are women—and that making any distinction between them and biological women, for any purpose, is a thought crime and an act of bigotry—that is the precept of a new religion. And it is a religion that most Americans want nothing to do with.

I want to be very clear about this: I have no doubt that there are real cases of gender dysphoria, and we should want to give such people all the help they need to feel comfortable in their own bodies and in society. How we think about this, and how we understand it scientifically, is still in flux. But there are four-year-olds who, apropos of nothing, claim to be in the wrong body—for instance, they were born a boy, but they insist that they're really girls—and they never waver from this. It's pretty obvious in those cases that something is going on neurologically, or hormonally—at the core of their being—and that it is not a matter of them having been influenced by the culture. But, conversely, there now seem to be countless examples where the possibility of social contagion is obvious. Where, due to the influence of trans activists on our institutions, these kids are effectively in a cult, being brainwashed by a new orthodoxy. These are radically different cases, and we shouldn’t be bullied into considering them to be the same.

I've spoken to many Democrats in recent years, and over the course of this election, and a shocking percentage of them imagine that all the controversy about trans rights and gender identity in kids is just a product of right-wing bigotry—and that it’s a non-issue, politically. Whereas it is obvious that, for millions of Americans, it might as well have been the only issue in this election. Not because they are transphobic assholes, but because they simply do not accept the new metaphysics, and even new biology, mandated by trans activists and the institutions that they have successfully bullied and captured. And it's important to say that not all trans people agree with what these activists say and do.

Having the thought police suddenly proscribe the use of the term “woman,” and demanding that we speak instead of “birthing person,” or “menstruators,” or “people with ovaries,” or some other Orwellian construction designed to test everyone's patience and sanity… the sight of people being deplatformed on social media or fired from universities for merely stating that there are two biological sexes—I actually know a professor who lost her job at Harvard over this… witnessing an epidemic of gender confusion spread through our schools, when people with their own eyes could see that this was a social contagion being encouraged by the schools themselves—the ultimate fruition of which, in many cases, is irreversible medical procedures… We've got an epidemic of teenage girls wanting double mastectomies—snd some are actually getting them, based on ideas being spread on TikTok—and any parent who resists this trend gets demonized and, under certain conditions, could lose custody of their kids?

Congratulations, Democrats. You have found the most annoying thing in the fucking galaxy and hung it around your necks..."

Re: Election 2024: Last One Out, Hit The Lights

Posted: Tue November 12, 2024 3:50 pm
by BurtReynolds
Sorry that's not tldr at all, but it's too hard to edit on RM when someone posts a YouTube video for some reason (does anyone else experience this?).