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Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 12:42 am
by RockPusher
Ms Harmless wrote:Coach wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:if Pearl Jam really want to "bring back the intensity" of their old stuff, they need to be making songs that are long enough to build and travel places; part of that is including the great intros they used to have: Alive, Jeremy, Black... you name it, they used to take great care to write intros that grabbed the attention right away but didn't show the song's whole hand immediately
Inside job?
yeah, they have late-career examples, but I wouldn't describe Inside Job as heavy or intense
I feel like Gigaton is full of the kind of textures you're talking about, and it's one of the reasons I love it.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 12:50 am
by Ms Harmless
RockPusher wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:Coach wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:if Pearl Jam really want to "bring back the intensity" of their old stuff, they need to be making songs that are long enough to build and travel places; part of that is including the great intros they used to have: Alive, Jeremy, Black... you name it, they used to take great care to write intros that grabbed the attention right away but didn't show the song's whole hand immediately
Inside job?
yeah, they have late-career examples, but I wouldn't describe Inside Job as heavy or intense
I feel like Gigaton is full of the kind of textures you're talking about, and it's one of the reasons I love it.
it is, yep, and I love that too
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 1:01 am
by tragabigzanda
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 1:33 am
by Jaeti
Ms Harmless wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:if Pearl Jam really want to "bring back the intensity" of their old stuff, they need to be making songs that are long enough to build and travel places; part of that is including the great intros they used to have: Alive, Jeremy, Black... you name it, they used to take great care to write intros that grabbed the attention right away but didn't show the song's whole hand immediately
I agree. I miss the longer songs that build to something. I guess there have been a few recently? But it does seem to be less prevalent
yeah, Gigaton had some, but Dark Matter would be much stronger with extended bookends
I'm all for bringing back the heavy, but I want some inviting intros pls
Ms Harmless is posting very well this evening.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 1:33 am
by Jaeti
RockPusher wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:Coach wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:if Pearl Jam really want to "bring back the intensity" of their old stuff, they need to be making songs that are long enough to build and travel places; part of that is including the great intros they used to have: Alive, Jeremy, Black... you name it, they used to take great care to write intros that grabbed the attention right away but didn't show the song's whole hand immediately
Inside job?
yeah, they have late-career examples, but I wouldn't describe Inside Job as heavy or intense
I feel like Gigaton is full of the kind of textures you're talking about, and it's one of the reasons I love it.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 1:34 am
by spike
Ms H is referencing the Stone songs on Ten.
Stone’s the problem.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 1:39 am
by oneway23
spike wrote:Stone’s the problem.
Stone never the problem.
Stone is the solution to any problem
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 1:41 am
by VinylGuy
Ms Harmless wrote:RockPusher wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:Coach wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:if Pearl Jam really want to "bring back the intensity" of their old stuff, they need to be making songs that are long enough to build and travel places; part of that is including the great intros they used to have: Alive, Jeremy, Black... you name it, they used to take great care to write intros that grabbed the attention right away but didn't show the song's whole hand immediately
Inside job?
yeah, they have late-career examples, but I wouldn't describe Inside Job as heavy or intense
I feel like Gigaton is full of the kind of textures you're talking about, and it's one of the reasons I love it.
it is, yep, and I love that too
Agreed with everything here
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 4:36 am
by Ms Harmless
tragabigzanda wrote:Wait I’m so confused. She was talking about compositional structure and suddenly it became textures? I’m too tired to deal with this.
"patterns"
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 1:53 pm
by stip
I'm listening to the BoB mix of Avocado (which I prefer to the original, overall),and I wish the intro to severed hand sounded as heavy as Dark Matter.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 2:25 pm
by Anders
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 3:25 pm
by wease
stip wrote:I'm listening to the BoB mix of Avocado (which I prefer to the original, overall),and I wish the intro to severed hand sounded as heavy as Dark Matter.
Is this available anywhere other than Spotify?
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 4:11 pm
by stip
Not that I'm aware of
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 4:14 pm
by oneway23
wease wrote:stip wrote:I'm listening to the BoB mix of Avocado (which I prefer to the original, overall),and I wish the intro to severed hand sounded as heavy as Dark Matter.
Is this available anywhere other than Spotify?
I believe this can be purchased from Qobuz, as well as other high-resolution audio sites like HDTracks and ProStudioMasters.
It can be identified by the (2017 mix) distinction
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 4:17 pm
by VinylGuy
i might have heard a bit more of Jeff in that Spatial audio preview?
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 4:21 pm
by Farmer John
Anders wrote:
I have! It's pretty good.
I think Apple calls it "Spatial Audio" so Trag doesn't get on their ass for it technically not being the full Dolby Atmos experience.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 4:28 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 4:28 pm
by oneway23
Farmer John wrote:Anders wrote:
I have! It's pretty good.
I think Apple calls it "Spatial Audio" so Trag doesn't get on their ass for it technically not being the full Dolby Atmos experience.
No, that's just Apple branding at work. Makes people think they've invented things first if they simply alter the wording. That's their designation for Dolby Atmos no matter how or where you listen.
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 4:41 pm
by Farmer John
oneway23 wrote:Farmer John wrote:Anders wrote:
I have! It's pretty good.
I think Apple calls it "Spatial Audio" so Trag doesn't get on their ass for it technically not being the full Dolby Atmos experience.
No, that's just Apple branding at work. Makes people think they've invented things first if they simply alter the wording. That's their designation for Dolby Atmos no matter how or where you listen.
Yeah, that's what I was attempting to say.
"It the Dolby Atmos mix, but you're probably listening to it on your AirPods or laptop speakers, so we'll call it Spatial Audio"
Which still sounds pretty cool, IMO
Re: Dark Matter (song)
Posted: Sat March 02, 2024 4:42 pm
by Anders
wease wrote:stip wrote:I'm listening to the BoB mix of Avocado (which I prefer to the original, overall),and I wish the intro to severed hand sounded as heavy as Dark Matter.
Is this available anywhere other than Spotify?
Apple Music