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tragabigzanda wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:I think we know what the next big shock on the show is going to be:

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I don't think we'll get that until next season. My prediction for big shock this season is (book spoiler):

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Lady Stoneheart. Probably revealed in the final scene of the season finale.

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I hope you're right about this. I want it soooooooo bad!

durdencommatyler wrote:

Mecca wrote:but seriously, i'm pretty sure it alternates between shocking moment (ned's death) and battle (Blackwater)

Ned's death.

Blackwater.

Red Wedding.

Battle of the Wall
.
Battle of Hardhome.

We're due for something smaller, I'd say. Also, the Red Wedding, though much more in line with what I'm talking about was still pretty BLOOD GUTS REVENGE YELLING BLOOD FUCK YAY. So each team gets half a point for that one.

By my tally that means it's 1.5 to 3.5 in favor of brahs.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:I think we know what the next big shock on the show is going to be:

Spoiler: show

I don't think we'll get that until next season. My prediction for big shock this season is (book spoiler):

Spoiler: show

Lady Stoneheart. Probably revealed in the final scene of the season finale.

You don't think we'll get it tomorrow night?

Spoiler: show

I hope you're right about this. I want it soooooooo bad!

I don't think so. I think that

Spoiler: show

Bran's visions of his mother are a clear setup. But I'm assuming she's at Riverrun, and I think it will take a few eps for Brienne/Jon&Sansa/Bran&Benjen to make it there.

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the return of the Hound and the Cleganebowl. Your post seemed to imply that you thought that was coming way later, next season. I think that's tomorrow night.

The Stoneheart stuff will take a while, as you said, probably last image of this season, if it happens at all.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:I think we know what the next big shock on the show is going to be:

Spoiler: show

I don't think we'll get that until next season. My prediction for big shock this season is (book spoiler):

Spoiler: show

Lady Stoneheart. Probably revealed in the final scene of the season finale.

You don't think we'll get it tomorrow night?

Spoiler: show

I hope you're right about this. I want it soooooooo bad!

I don't think so. I think that

Spoiler: show

Bran's visions of his mother are a clear setup. But I'm assuming she's at Riverrun, and I think it will take a few eps for Brienne/Jon&Sansa/Bran&Benjen to make it there.

Sorry, I meant

Spoiler: show

the return of the Hound and the Cleganebowl. Your post seemed to imply that you thought that was coming way later, next season. I think that's tomorrow night.

The Stoneheart stuff will take a while, as you said, probably last image of this season, if it happens at all.

Ah, got ya.

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I was just basing my assumptions about a later appearance of The Gravedigger on my understanding of the book's events. I've only read the first three, but from what I gather, isn't the Gravedigger off with some monks in a faraway place? Or am I misunderstanding, and Brienne may run into him really soon?

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That we actually won't get The Mountain vs The Hound for 2 weeks or so. But this week we'll probably have Cersei give her "I choose violence" speech to the High Sparrow, who will then say, "K thnx bye BTW here's my fighter" with a reveal of the Hound. Since Brienne's already found Sansa, I don't think she'll be the one to actually "find" him, but that one of the High Sparrow's allies will bring him to King's Landing.

durdencommatyler wrote:

Mecca wrote:but seriously, i'm pretty sure it alternates between shocking moment (ned's death) and battle (Blackwater)

Ned's death.

Blackwater.

Red Wedding.

Battle of the Wall
.
Battle of Hardhome.

We're due for something smaller, I'd say. Also, the Red Wedding, though much more in line with what I'm talking about was still pretty BLOOD GUTS REVENGE YELLING BLOOD FUCK YAY. So each team gets half a point for that one.

By my tally that means it's 1.5 to 3.5 in favor of brahs.

durdencommatyler wrote:I'd love for this years Ep 9 to break mold and be as anti-brah, go-go-big-bad-battle-violence-MEN-YES as possible. I'd love a quite episode with a genuinely heartfelt moment (whether its shocking or terrifying or beautiful).

Simple Torture wrote:
I imagine that "smaller" moment is going to come after the big battle we're all anticipating. Ramsay's not known as a great warrior, so he's probably not going to be leading his forces into battle like Jon will--by the time time the Starks + loyalists gain a victory, they'll probably take him prisoner and decide what to do with him. They're already setting up that Jon and Sansa are going to be at odds in some way (due to her lying to him already), but I don't think it's clear yet what that'll be. Will one of them want to kill him, the other to simply throw him in the dungeon? Will Sansa want to torture him like he tortured her? Will Jon be more or less willing to send Ramsay to the nothingness that is death after he's been there himself? A lot of this will be determined by what happens to Rickon, I think--if he's alive when it's all said and done, then he's the Lord of Winterfell now. If he dies, then Sansa's next in line, presumably, and would get to make decisions like this over Jon.

There's speculation in some corners that Sansa's pregnant, but I'm not too keen on it yet.

Zantac Junkie wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Mecca wrote:but seriously, i'm pretty sure it alternates between shocking moment (ned's death) and battle (Blackwater)

Ned's death.

Blackwater.

Red Wedding.

Battle of the Wall
.
Battle of Hardhome.

We're due for something smaller, I'd say. Also, the Red Wedding, though much more in line with what I'm talking about was still pretty BLOOD GUTS REVENGE YELLING BLOOD FUCK YAY. So each team gets half a point for that one.

By my tally that means it's 1.5 to 3.5 in favor of brahs.

Hardhome was episode 8, I think. Episode 9 was Shireen

Mike wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I'd love for this years Ep 9 to break mold and be as anti-brah, go-go-big-bad-battle-violence-MEN-YES as possible. I'd love a quite episode with a genuinely heartfelt moment (whether its shocking or terrifying or beautiful).

I'd appreciate that.

Simple Torture wrote:
I imagine that "smaller" moment is going to come after the big battle we're all anticipating. Ramsay's not known as a great warrior, so he's probably not going to be leading his forces into battle like Jon will--by the time time the Starks + loyalists gain a victory, they'll probably take him prisoner and decide what to do with him. They're already setting up that Jon and Sansa are going to be at odds in some way (due to her lying to him already), but I don't think it's clear yet what that'll be. Will one of them want to kill him, the other to simply throw him in the dungeon? Will Sansa want to torture him like he tortured her? Will Jon be more or less willing to send Ramsay to the nothingness that is death after he's been there himself? A lot of this will be determined by what happens to Rickon, I think--if he's alive when it's all said and done, then he's the Lord of Winterfell now. If he dies, then Sansa's next in line, presumably, and would get to make decisions like this over Jon.

There's speculation in some corners that Sansa's pregnant, but I'm not too keen on it yet.

Something like that is what I'm hoping for. I need some character driven drama in there. A battle against Ramsay has not a single bit of “the human heart in conflict with itself” as GRMM likes to say what is it that he likes to write about. It's a battle of pure evil against good and I'm not very interested in that and it's not what makes Game of Thrones great to me. The big battles before (Blackwater, The Wall) had characters we like on both sides (Davos, Ygritte) and you could make a good case for both sides of the battle. So I really hope there's more to this battle awaiting us.
Ramsay is a stupid villain anyway, so at least I'm happy when he's dead.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:Funny, I think this season has had some of the best character-driven drama in recent memory. Hopefully Sansa will take down Ramsey, rather than seeing him killed in battle. It would be the most emotionally vindicating way for him to go out.

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Mike wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I'd love for this years Ep 9 to break mold and be as anti-brah, go-go-big-bad-battle-violence-MEN-YES as possible. I'd love a quite episode with a genuinely heartfelt moment (whether its shocking or terrifying or beautiful).

I'd appreciate that.

Simple Torture wrote:
I imagine that "smaller" moment is going to come after the big battle we're all anticipating. Ramsay's not known as a great warrior, so he's probably not going to be leading his forces into battle like Jon will--by the time time the Starks + loyalists gain a victory, they'll probably take him prisoner and decide what to do with him. They're already setting up that Jon and Sansa are going to be at odds in some way (due to her lying to him already), but I don't think it's clear yet what that'll be. Will one of them want to kill him, the other to simply throw him in the dungeon? Will Sansa want to torture him like he tortured her? Will Jon be more or less willing to send Ramsay to the nothingness that is death after he's been there himself? A lot of this will be determined by what happens to Rickon, I think--if he's alive when it's all said and done, then he's the Lord of Winterfell now. If he dies, then Sansa's next in line, presumably, and would get to make decisions like this over Jon.

There's speculation in some corners that Sansa's pregnant, but I'm not too keen on it yet.

Something like that is what I'm hoping for. I need some character driven drama in there. A battle against Ramsay has not a single bit of “the human heart in conflict with itself” as GRMM likes to say what is it that he likes to write about. It's a battle of pure evil against good and I'm not very interested in that and it's not what makes Game of Thrones great to me. The big battles before (Blackwater, The Wall) had characters we like on both sides (Davos, Ygritte) and you could make a good case for both sides of the battle. So I really hope there's more to this battle awaiting us.
Ramsay is a stupid villain anyway, so at least I'm happy when he's dead.

Funny, I think this season has had some of the best character-driven drama in recent memory. Hopefully Sansa will take down Ramsey, rather than seeing him killed in battle. It would be the most emotionally vindicating way for him to go out.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.