Red Mosquito

contamination wrote:

lecherouslittlestump wrote:Cornell sounds pretty bad in this new Live from Artists Den release.

I kind of agree, though I only listened the first five tracks. After Jesus Christ Pose I went and put on the Live On I-5 version to hear how his voice has changed in 15 years. Besides the obvious change in his voice it seemd like he was singing more behind the beat in Live from The Artists Den. Like he was having trouble keeping up with the rest of the band...

blackholesun85 wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:Well, im a huge SG fan. I still think in a very weird night those guys were up there with the best..I5 is a very cool document of the 96 tour, and specially Chris. He sounds like a madman, like a fucking wolf there. Nothing To Say is my favorite version ever.

This new release, i remember he wasnt as good as night 1 i think. He is hit or miss here, but overall the performance is top notch.

Damn, those King Animal songs were so good live.

Does anyone have nights 1 & 2 at the Wiltern available to compare to the new official release? I've heard they're really good and have always wanted to hear them?

lecherouslittlestump wrote:

contamination wrote:

lecherouslittlestump wrote:Cornell sounds pretty bad in this new Live from Artists Den release.

I kind of agree, though I only listened the first five tracks. After Jesus Christ Pose I went and put on the Live On I-5 version to hear how his voice has changed in 15 years. Besides the obvious change in his voice it seemd like he was singing more behind the beat in Live from The Artists Den. Like he was having trouble keeping up with the rest of the band.

It's a good document about the latter day Soundgarden but I think I would rather put on I-5 if I had to choose. Btw. this is what Pitchfork had to say about Chris' singing on Live On I-5:

So what we're basically left with is a live album whose perverse main draw is the chance to hear a good portion of Soundgarden's most iconic tracks given the Lizard King treatment by someone whose vocal cords were clearly on the business end of way too many bottles of vodka. Let's not mince words-- Chris Cornell sounds terrible here, and he's pretty much all you can hear when he takes the mic. Granted, hearing him go all Tarzan on record provided some of Soundgarden's most visceral thrills, and oddly enough, he has no problem hitting the climactic high notes of "Spoonman" and "Rusty Cage". But nearly everything else just finds his vocals tattered and flailing in and out of tune like a flag in a torrential downpour, making you wonder just how bad things really got if these were truly the top-shelf recordings. Even the choice of covers here lack inspiration-- "Search and Destroy" and the even more ubiquitous "Helter Skelter" are given Blueshammer makeovers, no different from any number of bands doing the same thing at a sports bar near you.

I wonder if they'll review Artists Den...

Interesting quote and I've always thought he sounded weak in I-5 too. I don't think he's ever sounded consistently great live with Soundgarden TBH. The songs are incredibly demanding on his voice and I'm not surprised he struggled.

He sounded great on those TOTD shows a few years back and obviously he's phenomenal when he's on his own. But I can take or leave a live Soundgarden album because you know the vocals are going to be hit and miss. Even stuff like Motorvision and Lounder Than Live is rough.

fyfe79 wrote:

blackholesun85 wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:Well, im a huge SG fan. I still think in a very weird night those guys were up there with the best..I5 is a very cool document of the 96 tour, and specially Chris. He sounds like a madman, like a fucking wolf there. Nothing To Say is my favorite version ever.

This new release, i remember he wasnt as good as night 1 i think. He is hit or miss here, but overall the performance is top notch.

Damn, those King Animal songs were so good live.

Does anyone have nights 1 & 2 at the Wiltern available to compare to the new official release? I've heard they're really good and have always wanted to hear them?

Yeah, I got them from Dime and burned to cdr's. So, if you don't mind wav's ripped from cdr's, I can upload them over the next few days?

Taped by BLG at 24/48 but re-sampled to 16/44 for torrenting. Maybe they were also torrented at 24/48, I can't remember - if so, I didn't grab them.

Strat wrote:Chirping in here late but good lord listening back to a live Soundgarden show is just depressing. I know there is magic there but Chris was just not a good live singer. I've hear far more awful live shows than good ones. I wish i actually got to see them live because im sure its a far different experience in person. But both of these major live releases are just massive stinkers and its all due to Cornells voice.

I also felt the same on the mad season reunion shows where i really thought/hoped he'd be able to bring some of the songs alive again.

In the studio? Geezes, there might not be a better rock voice and certainly continues to send chills down my spine but live? wah wah wah.

blackholesun85 wrote:

fyfe79 wrote:

blackholesun85 wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:Well, im a huge SG fan. I still think in a very weird night those guys were up there with the best..I5 is a very cool document of the 96 tour, and specially Chris. He sounds like a madman, like a fucking wolf there. Nothing To Say is my favorite version ever.

This new release, i remember he wasnt as good as night 1 i think. He is hit or miss here, but overall the performance is top notch.

Damn, those King Animal songs were so good live.

Does anyone have nights 1 & 2 at the Wiltern available to compare to the new official release? I've heard they're really good and have always wanted to hear them?

Yeah, I got them from Dime and burned to cdr's. So, if you don't mind wav's ripped from cdr's, I can upload them over the next few days?

Taped by BLG at 24/48 but re-sampled to 16/44 for torrenting. Maybe they were also torrented at 24/48, I can't remember - if so, I didn't grab them.

That would be fantastic and very much appreciated. If you could upload them to mega.nz that would be even better, thanks.

fyfe79 wrote:

blackholesun85 wrote:

fyfe79 wrote:

blackholesun85 wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:Well, im a huge SG fan. I still think in a very weird night those guys were up there with the best..I5 is a very cool document of the 96 tour, and specially Chris. He sounds like a madman, like a fucking wolf there. Nothing To Say is my favorite version ever.

This new release, i remember he wasnt as good as night 1 i think. He is hit or miss here, but overall the performance is top notch.

Damn, those King Animal songs were so good live.

Does anyone have nights 1 & 2 at the Wiltern available to compare to the new official release? I've heard they're really good and have always wanted to hear them?

Yeah, I got them from Dime and burned to cdr's. So, if you don't mind wav's ripped from cdr's, I can upload them over the next few days?

Taped by BLG at 24/48 but re-sampled to 16/44 for torrenting. Maybe they were also torrented at 24/48, I can't remember - if so, I didn't grab them.

That would be fantastic and very much appreciated. If you could upload them to mega.nz that would be even better, thanks.

Soundgarden - The Wiltern, Los Angeles, CA 15.2.13 (wavs ripped from cdrs)
https://mega.nz/#F!8DoyAayR!pa8eGB-K6Y4ore4r-8ysnA

Soundgarden - The Wiltern, Los Angeles, CA 16.2.13 (wavs ripped from cdrs)
https://mega.nz/#F!hfxwCIoB!r0gfcarrseM7O3cuq9_nTQ


While I'm here... does anyone remember the "TV Compilation" bootlegs which were being sold on ebay about 15/20 years ago? Mostly TV clips from the early 90's. They were NTSC VHS and I bought a couple, but as I'm in Ireland I needed to transfer them to PAL in order to watch them. I've since transferred them from PAL VHS to dvdr but the quality could be better due to the generation loss.

Does anyone have good transfers from the original NTSC tapes? I'd love to get better quality copies if anyone would be so kind as to share?

What are some titles of these unreleased tracks?
"Dirty Candy," "Ocean Fronts," "Open Up," "Summation" — that was a pretty heavy song, in 5/4 time. "Ocean Fronts" is a little bit more of a trippy, arpeggiated song. A song called "Beast," which is going to sound exactly like the title. "Beast" and "Summation" were really strong songs live — from the mid-late '80s. I cannot believe those two songs have never been released. "No Shame" is another title.

VinylGuy wrote:I hope we get to hear that new album they were working on...Kim wants to finish it.