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durdencommatyler wrote:

Strat wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

B wrote:Was it definitely Luke's voice saying that it's time for the Jedi to end?

If so, I heard it as stating that Rey is something else, the thing that comes after the Jedi.

Or maybe he himself has become more than Jedi.

Or maybe he's just wallowing in self pity since his Jedi Academy failed/ he failed as a teacher to Ben. There is great precedence in his being a whiner.

I think this is all tying back to what George intended with the prequels and explored more fully in The Clone Wars: the Jedi aren't as noble and good as they believe themselves to be. This new trilogy might connect some major dots and provide real closure. It might all come full circle. Christ this is exciting! I'm having a hard time articulating what I'm thinking/feeling about those images and that line.

But ultimately the Force is not something that can be tucked away and forgotten. So what is bringing balance to the force exactly?
What does Luke have in mind? He may not literally mean to end the jedi, and im sure that Dialogue was placed in the trailer as its so provocative. In the greater context im sure it will mean something far more poignant and im excited to find out.

In lukes isolation I am certain he had learned plenty about the History of the Jedi and came to the realization that the Sith/Jedi battle has brought nothing but Chaos to the Galaxy and he would like to end that.

Exactly. I'm sure that will be a big part of it. Let's be clear: I'm not saying he's advocating and end to The Force or anything like that. I think this movie, this trilogy, is going to introduce the film audience to what we've been seeing in the animated series' for a while now. The Jedi are not the Force. Ending the Jedi is not the same as ending the Force. I wonder if Lucasfilm isn't trying to get us used to the idea of new Star Wars stories (that will still include the Force and maybe even light sabers, etc) without "Jedi." The Jedi Order will be gone. And we'll focus on whatever comes next.

jwfocker wrote:Whew that was awesome. I love the look and the feel a lot.

Luke's lines about how there's so much more after Rey say's she sees the light and the dark. That's something serious. Combine that with his line about the how the Jedi need to end makes me think he's training her in a new way, a new approach.

Maybe he thinks a new approach will help put end to the centuries of conflict between the Jedi and the Sith.

Strat wrote:But if He is training Rey you can't end the jedi? I dont know. I'm rambling here. What would be the point of bringing Rey into this?

Also im a little hesitant to think that they are trying to tie in all the comics, books, and cartoons to it. its a massive undertaking and might require everybody to participate in other mediums which is unlikely.

wease wrote:

Strat wrote:But if He is training Rey you can't end the jedi? I dont know. I'm rambling here. What would be the point of bringing Rey into this?

Also im a little hesitant to think that they are trying to tie in all the comics, books, and cartoons to it. its a massive undertaking and might require everybody to participate in other mediums which is unlikely.

With so much intertwining by the think tank, I think this is exactly what is happening. And if so, I LOVE IT.

Strat wrote:

jwfocker wrote:Whew that was awesome. I love the look and the feel a lot.

Luke's lines about how there's so much more after Rey say's she sees the light and the dark. That's something serious. Combine that with his line about the how the Jedi need to end makes me think he's training her in a new way, a new approach.

Maybe he thinks a new approach will help put end to the centuries of conflict between the Jedi and the Sith.

"Its so much bigger"

Just caught that. I like that. I remember JJ Abrams discussing TFA and the new trilogy. I believe he said something about exploring what is actually evil and what is actually good. These blurred lines and i think that is what Luke is actually addressing. This is awesome

Strat wrote:

wease wrote:

Strat wrote:But if He is training Rey you can't end the jedi? I dont know. I'm rambling here. What would be the point of bringing Rey into this?

Also im a little hesitant to think that they are trying to tie in all the comics, books, and cartoons to it. its a massive undertaking and might require everybody to participate in other mediums which is unlikely.

With so much intertwining by the think tank, I think this is exactly what is happening. And if so, I LOVE IT.

Okay then! Can someone hook me up with the comics books and ill start watching all of the clone wars for the next 9 months?!

@SkitchP wrote:

Strat wrote:

wease wrote:

Strat wrote:But if He is training Rey you can't end the jedi? I dont know. I'm rambling here. What would be the point of bringing Rey into this?

Also im a little hesitant to think that they are trying to tie in all the comics, books, and cartoons to it. its a massive undertaking and might require everybody to participate in other mediums which is unlikely.

With so much intertwining by the think tank, I think this is exactly what is happening. And if so, I LOVE IT.

Okay then! Can someone hook me up with the comics books and ill start watching all of the clone wars for the next 9 months?!

dont forget the novels!

Strat wrote:

wease wrote:

Strat wrote:But if He is training Rey you can't end the jedi? I dont know. I'm rambling here. What would be the point of bringing Rey into this?

Also im a little hesitant to think that they are trying to tie in all the comics, books, and cartoons to it. its a massive undertaking and might require everybody to participate in other mediums which is unlikely.

With so much intertwining by the think tank, I think this is exactly what is happening. And if so, I LOVE IT.

Okay then! Can someone hook me up with the comics books and ill start watching all of the clone wars for the next 9 months?!

Strat wrote:Ill just start watching the clone wars in order and let Dime fill me in on the rest

dimejinky99 wrote:I filmed me doing a trailer reaction as I watched it. It's mad stupid. Who wants to see it?

Strat wrote:But if He is training Rey you can't end the jedi? I dont know. I'm rambling here. What would be the point of bringing Rey into this?

Also im a little hesitant to think that they are trying to tie in all the comics, books, and cartoons to it. its a massive undertaking and might require everybody to participate in other mediums which is unlikely.

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Strat wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

B wrote:Was it definitely Luke's voice saying that it's time for the Jedi to end?

If so, I heard it as stating that Rey is something else, the thing that comes after the Jedi.

Or maybe he himself has become more than Jedi.

Or maybe he's just wallowing in self pity since his Jedi Academy failed/ he failed as a teacher to Ben. There is great precedence in his being a whiner.

I think this is all tying back to what George intended with the prequels and explored more fully in The Clone Wars: the Jedi aren't as noble and good as they believe themselves to be. This new trilogy might connect some major dots and provide real closure. It might all come full circle. Christ this is exciting! I'm having a hard time articulating what I'm thinking/feeling about those images and that line.

But ultimately the Force is not something that can be tucked away and forgotten. So what is bringing balance to the force exactly?
What does Luke have in mind? He may not literally mean to end the jedi, and im sure that Dialogue was placed in the trailer as its so provocative. In the greater context im sure it will mean something far more poignant and im excited to find out.

In lukes isolation I am certain he had learned plenty about the History of the Jedi and came to the realization that the Sith/Jedi battle has brought nothing but Chaos to the Galaxy and he would like to end that.

Exactly. I'm sure that will be a big part of it. Let's be clear: I'm not saying he's advocating and end to The Force or anything like that. I think this movie, this trilogy, is going to introduce the film audience to what we've been seeing in the animated series' for a while now. The Jedi are not the Force. Ending the Jedi is not the same as ending the Force. I wonder if Lucasfilm isn't trying to get us used to the idea of new Star Wars stories (that will still include the Force and maybe even light sabers, etc) without "Jedi." The Jedi Order will be gone. And we'll focus on whatever comes next.

If you haven't been, you REALLY REALLY need to start reading the comic series. It's exploring these ideas in ways you can't possibly imagine.

And Pablo oversees it, too.

Strat wrote:

jwfocker wrote:Whew that was awesome. I love the look and the feel a lot.

Luke's lines about how there's so much more after Rey say's she sees the light and the dark. That's something serious. Combine that with his line about the how the Jedi need to end makes me think he's training her in a new way, a new approach.

Maybe he thinks a new approach will help put end to the centuries of conflict between the Jedi and the Sith.

"Its so much bigger"

Just caught that. I like that. I remember JJ Abrams discussing TFA and the new trilogy. I believe he said something about exploring what is actually evil and what is actually good. These blurred lines and i think that is what Luke is actually addressing. This is awesome

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Strat wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

wease wrote:

B wrote:Was it definitely Luke's voice saying that it's time for the Jedi to end?

If so, I heard it as stating that Rey is something else, the thing that comes after the Jedi.

Or maybe he himself has become more than Jedi.

Or maybe he's just wallowing in self pity since his Jedi Academy failed/ he failed as a teacher to Ben. There is great precedence in his being a whiner.

I think this is all tying back to what George intended with the prequels and explored more fully in The Clone Wars: the Jedi aren't as noble and good as they believe themselves to be. This new trilogy might connect some major dots and provide real closure. It might all come full circle. Christ this is exciting! I'm having a hard time articulating what I'm thinking/feeling about those images and that line.

But ultimately the Force is not something that can be tucked away and forgotten. So what is bringing balance to the force exactly?
What does Luke have in mind? He may not literally mean to end the jedi, and im sure that Dialogue was placed in the trailer as its so provocative. In the greater context im sure it will mean something far more poignant and im excited to find out.

In lukes isolation I am certain he had learned plenty about the History of the Jedi and came to the realization that the Sith/Jedi battle has brought nothing but Chaos to the Galaxy and he would like to end that.

Exactly. I'm sure that will be a big part of it. Let's be clear: I'm not saying he's advocating and end to The Force or anything like that. I think this movie, this trilogy, is going to introduce the film audience to what we've been seeing in the animated series' for a while now. The Jedi are not the Force. Ending the Jedi is not the same as ending the Force. I wonder if Lucasfilm isn't trying to get us used to the idea of new Star Wars stories (that will still include the Force and maybe even light sabers, etc) without "Jedi." The Jedi Order will be gone. And we'll focus on whatever comes next.

If you haven't been, you REALLY REALLY need to start reading the comic series. It's exploring these ideas in ways you can't possibly imagine.

And Pablo oversees it, too.

I'd love to get into those. But I'm already so far behind. And I done have the time/ money to devote to collecting.

wease wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:I filmed me doing a trailer reaction as I watched it. It's mad stupid. Who wants to see it?

Dev