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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 2:54 pm
by jwfocker
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Pretty confident both the sarin attack and Trump's response are a US-Russia collaboration.
According to WashPo, this theory came from a fake news site:

http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/syr ... d-it/2210/

Try to separate your bias here from what you know and nothing we know suggests that this was a conspiracy between Trump and Putin. (Again, if you don't believe the official reports, doesn't it make more sense that it was the Saudis via ISIL since the have done it before and have the most to gain from increased US aggression against Syria?)

Your the one talking about the need to separate ones bias? That's a real Monday move.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 3:47 pm
by tragabigzanda
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Pretty confident both the sarin attack and Trump's response are a US-Russia collaboration.
According to WashPo, this theory came from a fake news site:

http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/syr ... d-it/2210/

Try to separate your bias here from what you know and nothing we know suggests that this was a conspiracy between Trump and Putin. (Again, if you don't believe the official reports, doesn't it make more sense that it was the Saudis via ISIL since the have done it before and have the most to gain from increased US aggression against Syria?)
I've got to cop to being under-informed on the Saudis vs ISIL narrative. I wasn't necessarily trying to state that this was definitively a US-Russia job (even though that's exactly how my post reads); was just trying to make the point that there are a number of other narratives I'd believe before I buy into the "Assad attacked his people and Trump responded with swift justice" story. But your alternative theory is just as good as any.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 4:27 pm
by dimejinky99
Sending the navy to North Korea cos they're testing a middle also smacks of 'throw the press off the fact I'm a shit president, let's go to war with someone!'

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 4:31 pm
by tragabigzanda
dimejinky99 wrote:Sending the navy to North Korea cos they're testing a middle also smacks of 'throw the press off the fact I'm a shit president, let's go to war with someone!'
Yes, and John Oliver made a great (if obvious) point that we should all be very worried that a President who thrives on positive press just got his first real round of applause for launching some missiles.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 4:47 pm
by dimejinky99
Any complaints from trump about the media in that situation?

Strange that these same outlets that had knives out for him are congratulating him on what was an utterly pointless and ineffective strike.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 4:50 pm
by tragabigzanda
dimejinky99 wrote:Any complaints from trump about the media in that situation?

Strange that these same outlets that had knives out for him are congratulating him on what was an utterly pointless and ineffective strike.
Interestingly, (famous/fallen news anchor) Brian Williams was taken to task by just about everybody for his heaping praise on the situation.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 4:54 pm
by McParadigm

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 4:55 pm
by BurtReynolds
tragabigzanda wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Any complaints from trump about the media in that situation?

Strange that these same outlets that had knives out for him are congratulating him on what was an utterly pointless and ineffective strike.
Interestingly, (famous/fallen news anchor) Brian Williams was taken to task by just about everybody for his heaping praise on the situation.
Some guy on CNN was doing it too. They want to give their new doggy a treat when he does what he's told.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 5:10 pm
by McParadigm

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 7:05 pm
by Bi_3
tragabigzanda wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Pretty confident both the sarin attack and Trump's response are a US-Russia collaboration.
According to WashPo, this theory came from a fake news site:

http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/syr ... d-it/2210/

Try to separate your bias here from what you know and nothing we know suggests that this was a conspiracy between Trump and Putin. (Again, if you don't believe the official reports, doesn't it make more sense that it was the Saudis via ISIL since the have done it before and have the most to gain from increased US aggression against Syria?)
I've got to cop to being under-informed on the Saudis vs ISIL narrative. I wasn't necessarily trying to state that this was definitively a US-Russia job (even though that's exactly how my post reads); was just trying to make the point that there are a number of other narratives I'd believe before I buy into the "Assad attacked his people and Trump responded with swift justice" story. But your alternative theory is just as good as any.
I wasn't trying to call you out on it or anything and I agree with you that the official narrative is weak on evidence so far...

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 8:00 pm
by McParadigm

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 8:01 pm
by Norah
Ah yes, the President who doesn't like to broadcast his battle plans literally called them up and said "we're bombing you, get out of the way".

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 9:04 pm
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:

Bombed a hospital? You gotta admire their commitment to making that false flag look real.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 9:57 pm
by 96583UP
dimejinky99 wrote:Sending the navy to North Korea cos they're testing a middle also smacks of 'throw the press off the fact I'm a shit president, let's go to war with someone!'
that or the Japanese are tired of having ballistic missiles shot in their direction

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 10:11 pm
by dimejinky99
cutuphalfdead wrote:Ah yes, the President who doesn't like to broadcast his battle plans literally called them up and said "we're bombing you, get out of the way".

Obama did it all the time in fairness.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 10:13 pm
by dimejinky99
96583UP wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Sending the navy to North Korea cos they're testing a middle also smacks of 'throw the press off the fact I'm a shit president, let's go to war with someone!'
that or the Japanese are tired of having ballistic missiles shot in their direction

Let Japan deal with it.
It's americas business how exactly?
Weird to think America would object to anyone bombing Japan excelt to chuckle that America did it first.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 10:13 pm
by Norah
dimejinky99 wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Ah yes, the President who doesn't like to broadcast his battle plans literally called them up and said "we're bombing you, get out of the way".

Obama did it all the time in fairness.
just let me have this

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Mon April 10, 2017 10:53 pm
by dimejinky99
Seems a lot of Putins underlings that know stuff die horribly quite quickly. Least trump just fires them.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue April 11, 2017 12:07 am
by dimejinky99
'Trump could have done more damage to that airfield if he just bought it and run it as a business'

:haha:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue April 11, 2017 12:36 pm
by Peeps
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